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Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 286 Location: Nairobi
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Its still abit too early to judge, but l see Airtel burning their fingers on this porting thing. I still wonder HOW and WHEN Porting Access Kenya Ltd will recoup their investment of over Kes. 350 million into the porting infrastructures, before operation costs. Methinks they too are in for major surprises. The laudable is more often than not rendered laughable by overclaim
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Barrywhite wrote:
I still wonder HOW and WHEN Porting Access Kenya Ltd will recoup their investment of over Kes. 350 million into the porting infrastructures
I don't get. Access Kenya has something to do with mobile porting?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/10/2008 Posts: 365
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2012 wrote:Barrywhite wrote:
I still wonder HOW and WHEN Porting Access Kenya Ltd will recoup their investment of over Kes. 350 million into the porting infrastructures
I don't get. Access Kenya has something to do with mobile porting? The company is called 'Porting Access' not 'Access Kenya'. Somebody confirm whether the investment in porting infrastructure was purely by porting access or CCK financed it Also, note that your line has to be registered in order to port, that makes it a bit hard to implement that sabotage strategy, that is coz you'd have register the 1 million lines first.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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subzero wrote:2012 wrote:Barrywhite wrote:
I still wonder HOW and WHEN Porting Access Kenya Ltd will recoup their investment of over Kes. 350 million into the porting infrastructures
I don't get. Access Kenya has something to do with mobile porting? The company is called 'Porting Access' not 'Access Kenya'. Somebody confirm whether the investment in porting infrastructure was purely by porting access or CCK financed it Also, note that your line has to be registered in order to port, that makes it a bit hard to implement that sabotage strategy, that is coz you'd have register the 1 million lines first. ....Substantiate the bold part, I doubt it would be easy to do porting automatically with that bottle neck!!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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subzero wrote:Also, note that your line has to be registered in order to port, So you want to tell us that Airtel has access to the register of scom's subscribers? Do they even look like they care about registers? And who says you can only register one line?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/9/2010 Posts: 894 Location: Nairobi
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And Airtel has spent alot on advertising campaigns. My worry is, how long will the market punish them for their past mistakes? Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 286 Location: Nairobi
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Porting Access Kenya Ltd (please read in whole) is the local affiliate for Porting Access NV of Netherlands. The whole capital expenditure came from Netherlands ....... I think Access Kenya shareholders see Access Kenya only in Porting Access Kenya Ltd .......... with a light touch. The laudable is more often than not rendered laughable by overclaim
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/13/2011 Posts: 39 Location: nairobi
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Lets not take airtels silence on ths matter lightly. So far 92% of numbers porting r porting into airtel. However slow it takes, whichever way we luk at it, airtel stands to gain while saf cntinues shrinkin. Only Time will reveal the real picture Namukhaywa: walk by me & ill take u thea.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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On the contrary @aydenjason, I'd take Airtel's silence lightly, noting their demonstrated fondness for agressive publicity - they would trumpet any sign of success.
@Barrywhite, nice user name. Assuming they make say 50/= profit per port (after paying operators, overheads, taxes etc), they'd need around 7 million transfers to recoup investment.
Unless, of course, they're paid a small amount (say 1.00) for each directory lookup, necessary every time a ported user makes a call. In this case, the new operator would make less money per call.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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I think this porting business is going nowhere unless CCK intervenes and takes up the role of educating the public. Safaricom silence and yesterdays comments by orange CEO shows airtel is the only operator carrying the role of advertising the service on behalf of CCK and AKP or is it PAKL. The way I see it the pple porting might be wakina @VVS na @kularaha who shifted long ago anyway but were trapped by safaricom prefix. with Dual sim Phones making a foray in the market I dont see many pple porting. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Porting is a cropper, airtel invested too much in this for nothing, figures as per monday morning stood at less that 1000, in a market of close to 20M subscribers, this must be a really big joke!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Actually at safaricom only 100 have requested to port in or out as per CEO Bob Collymore by yesterday http://www.bloomberg.com...ited-number-changes.htmlA New Kenya
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/11/2011 Posts: 240 Location: jamuhuri ya kenya
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I have ported from safcom to yu with no hitches. But the person calling my ported number is not hearing the three beeps to indicated that the number they are calling is ported
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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ABKSo after 1 month, my conclusion is this is just a sham. You have to be a fool to decide to port 072a xxxxxx, rather than simply ask Airtel to give you a second sim 073b yyyyyy. Airtel have perfected the art of misleading normal Kenyans. Just send an SMS to 1501 and you port/sign a form and on the street and it's done - Nkt. In my last visit to a Safaricom shop, I saw bunch of letters of people asking to move back - even this winner on Capital FM http://soundcloud.com/techmtaa/capital-fm-presentersPorting Access BV aka Patrick Musimba, formerly a VAS provider Musimba is far from neutral. He wants our numbers and doesn't care what happens next. Report from @techmtaa shows 1 out of 4 port requests from all providers don't work out http://www.techmtaa.com/2011/04...and-safaricom-hits-back/Finally Safaricom won't let go. The feet dragging ensures you have your blackout period to the full at a minimum. Any fair excuse they can dig up will work to your detriment. And now they're suing Porting Access... So signing the form gives strangers power over my number, my MPesa, my bonga points, no calls, no sms, black out period. What's the damn point??!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/19/2010 Posts: 237 Location: Republic of Graham & Doddsville
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High time Airtel changed strategy coz this MNP biz is not panning out as per their expectation(s). I think Bw Meza should go back to pre-MNP days when he used to go round talking about Airtel going 3G in Q2 precisely from April, ama it was just that... domodomo!!! We Will Either Find a Way or Create One - HANNIBAL
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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Surely, this is fast becoming another saga. Is it likely that Patrick Musimba of Musimba Investments used cash float, from Nokia's stock, to invest in Porting Access Kenya? Well well well, Nokia wants their money... And their is a gag order in court so he can't blame Safaricom... Is it too early to smell bankruptcy? http://www.nation.co.ke/News/No...056/1163982/-/5f5xetz/-/
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi
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Things are thick. Nokia wants whats they call their money back and MNP is not working out at all.Its said MNP cost them 350M. Now if say 10,000 guys have ported.....?How much is that in revenue? Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/6/2007 Posts: 132
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muganda wrote:Surely, this is fast becoming another saga. Is it likely that Patrick Musimba of Musimba Investments used cash float, from Nokia's stock, to invest in Porting Access Kenya? Well well well, Nokia wants their money... And their is a gag order in court so he can't blame Safaricom... Is it too early to smell bankruptcy? http://www.nation.co.ke/News/No...056/1163982/-/5f5xetz/-/ I dont think the Nokia suit has anything to do with Portability directly since the contested money is between Musimba and Nokia but I would not be surprised if Safcom Nudged Nokia to the courts  Musimba is a safcom dealer as well but porting acess is a dutch based firm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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Empire strikes backFirst telecommunication class action suit in the offing... And at first glance, it seems Alex Gakuru is well prepared because he has actual guys/pals (Humphrey Atuti and Jackson Enonda) who he claims he couldn't reach, causing him to loose business. Consumers sue Safaricom over number transfersSo are these guys? 1. genuine subscribers 2. opportunists 3. fronts for Airtel/Musimba Time will tell
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 975 Location: Nairobi
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Number portability will eventually work well. However by working i dont mean it will have any drastic change in the market share for the operators. The numbers may be too small for impact. Its just that the subscribers will be able to transfer from one network to another with little or no issues. You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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