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Who needs education...a couple of billionares didnt
Rank: Member Joined: 1/24/2011 Posts: 407 Location: Nairobi,Kenya
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/5/2010 Posts: 335 Location: Nairobi
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"Don't let schooling interfere with your education." - MARK TWAIN"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
"The problem is not what we don't know... it's what we know for sure that just ain't!" - MARK TWAIN
"Space we can recover... time never!" - NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/28/2011 Posts: 27
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i'd rather drop out if i got THE idea. and while in campus too. at least i'll know something if the idea fails to work out.they do mention some few billionaires who dropped out of school, but what about the many so not blessed drop outs?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2010 Posts: 906 Location: Nairobi
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@craig the statistics are skewed on both sides of the divide. There are many 'not so blessed' Masters and PhD. students as well. I say pick your side and fight to the death! :D
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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I would rather read and implement then get rich/wealthy e.t.c. I once got an email from an 'inspired' character who no doubt after watching 'the social network' had the idea bulb lit....this is what he wrote to me joseph wrote:
its great to see this. am just have a thought of starting a social network but have little about html and others. can you inform if you can assist
i laughed and sent him back this link (http://www.iddsalim.com/blog/2011/06/20/the-annoying-even-google-and-facebook-were-started-in-a-dorm-room-fallacy/) All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/22/2011 Posts: 41
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While I echo some sentiments about going to school and not, I think it largely depends with where you are and in this circumstance, you need to be more educated in Kenya than in states for you to make it. But then it depends on your character, whether you are the employee type or just want to be your own employer. America has got a lot to offer especially if you are ambitious and know the know how stuff unlike Kenya where everything is just messed up and have to depend on your education unless you are well connected or come from a rich family. Education is to some degree useful unless you are in Kenya where its more useful and advantageous unlike here where you got the internet and can pretty much research everything and get yourself going. I was really struggling with school until I took a course known as small business administration /education and that’s when all the links were given to me by a professor about starting your own business and the available resources to help you make it. In three months, I quit school, opened up two businesses and hired those Mexicans that pretty much know everything while I knew nothing except from using my survival skills (call it kanuwa maguta) from back there and the rest is history. If Kenya could lend to any person who had an initiative and also had support systems that would go into detail about how to do this and that, then we would be better off than where we are now. When you see all these drop outs being mentioned, its because there were support systems for them to flourish. http://www.sba.gov/categ...-structure/loans-grants
http://www.cslb.ca.gov/
@ Jason Hill You cant discharge student loans even if you filed for bankruptcy, you gotta pay them. @ Sport. You can have the American dream if you wanted to, that is if you live here but if you are the kind of person who only believes in being employed and doesn’t see beyond their nose, then my friend you gotta toil.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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the billionares did learn one thing well enough to get them where they are. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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bomboclat wrote:@ Jason Hill
You cant discharge student loans even if you filed for bankruptcy, you gotta pay them.
True, that's why I said use non-educational loans and credit. But, either way, "gotta" only applies if you are staying ;) and even at that, only if you decide to get a job in the US. ;) I know professionals that were born in the US that have picked up and left, to work elsewhere after the financial crash, that have six figure school debt still owed. Trust me, the last thing they are worried about at this point is bill collectors. Even when they return to visit, it's not like collection agents will be waiting at the airport hounding them. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just stating facts- don't let the price deter you if you if have a opportunity and a judgement-proof exit plan, even if that means making minimum payments, or staying registered in school long enough to defer the pay-back for several years while you send money home. Best, Hill
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/16/2012 Posts: 661
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Genghis Khan wrote:I think that the problem with most education systems is that they are misapplied.
The blueprint of these systems originated in medieval europe, I think what is now Germany. It was Goverment sanctioned. The motivation was to create / develop a competent and disciplined workforce to help run goverment. Soldiers, administrators, taxmen / accountants, judicial officials etc.
The real enterprenuers had no need for such "school". The farmers, gold & blacksmiths, merchants etc. learnt from their own kind through apprenticeship. You can only learn to be a doctor from a doctor, a lawyer from a lawyer, a pilot from a pilot, a thief from a thief, an enterprenuer from an enterprenuer...
My former Kiswahili teacher had no interest in nuturing the development of my mathematical or business skills. Alinifunza ufasaha wa lugha: ngeli, mizani katika shairi, sadfa katika fasihi. Nina ufasaha mwingi wa lugha hii lakini hauna maana au thamani katika maisha yangu ya sasa. Mimi hata siongei kiswahili mufti... I use sheng & with the usual mixture of English words.
Consider what we did in school:
Parade every morning... prefects & teachers checked if my shoes were polished, shirt & shorts ironed, socks pulled up etc.
I did Geography... I know how lakes are formed, glaciers, desert landscapes, platetechtonic theories...
I did math till university... calculus, complex numbers, advanced statistics...
I did chemistry... mole concept! Enough said.
I did biology... from mitochondria to Darwin's Theory
From history I know Australopithecus Boisei, Otto von Bismack, Cecil Rhodes, Moi, Kenyatta, Mboya... nothing about Nathan Rothschild, JPMorgan, Rockefeller or even Ndegwa...
I also did agriculture, physics and a few others.
By the time i finished 844, 16years... I did not know how to open a CDS account, i did not know what a bond / stock / option was. I did not even understand how pension schemes worked! No one told me how to save, how to apply for a loan / mortgage!
I learnt how to write a CV but not a business plan, nor a budget, nor a sales strategy!
But in primary school homescience, i sewed pin cushions, fringed mats and a lap bag... no one taught me how to make a business plan or how to apply for a business loan or how to pick a good shop location in case i wanted to open a tailoring business! Strange?
No wonder our great grandparents mostly sent their least industrious and weakest children to mzungu school leaving the better ones in the home! Some of these threads need to be revived time and again Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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