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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805
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@Njunge, Has Kirinyaga Construction completed recarpeting ( not building) the Nyeri-Nairobi road since 2004? Ama it is the 2012 Nyeri vote hunting plan? I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@Bwenyenye, Wapi?....2012 is very close....How do you expect to finish a 200km stretch when your tools wheelbarrows and mattocks....BK! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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@Jason, Is AP(Associated Press) also fake?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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@Chaka, actually, yes, sometimes it is, but that is another matter altogether. Please provide your AP link, because I just searched AP's archives and current news, and there is no mention of the Kanto highway in Naka.
Once again, please explain the trees. Anyway, I have contacted East Nippon Expressway Company and Universal Traffic Society of Japan for clarification. East Nippon Expressway Company"s website shows both pictures, and says that "work is under way to get it back like it was" NOT that it is repaired. In addition, please give me your AP link, as I have passed the photo off for forensic analysis to a journalist at the Cleveland Plain Dealer, and she says it is not possibly a before/after in six days time, and that by the light, it appears to be a different season altogether.
In addition, a civil engineer I spoke to says that it simply isn't possible, due to the amount of earth shifting that has taken place, the amount of deconstruction, backfilling, re-leveling, pipe and conduit repair, bitumen/asphalt and concrete curing that would need to take place to repair what was shown in the picture.
I would really like to know the outcome of this as it would bring an interesting twist to some construction plans and investments that I have if it were true.
But on the outset, it seems that this is not accurate. I'm very surprised that everyone jumped on this as if it were true, unquestioned.
Once again, I hope people aren't investing the same way- one rumors and unproven information.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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@jason, while you are it, doing all that you are doing, please visit Pluto and see if life exists. While to us it's an impressive passing story, wewe umeenda full throttle, making calls, forensic anaylsis, blah, blah, blah. You see, while we are busy investing, what are you busy doing? Trying to prove a point to Kenyans thousands of miles away? ABK!!! Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 131 Location: kenya
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Blazin kuwa mpole, maybe Jason might seem to have gone overboard with his investigations, it only shows how professional he is as his arguements are based on facts. Just because a story has been published on some western rag doesnt make it gospel truth. And dont expect all of us to blindly fawn on some fools day hoax without asking questions.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/24/2006 Posts: 20
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@jason
It seems you are assuming everyone constructs roads the same way. In the states, use of concrete for paving roads is a big deal and would take time because of the curing process. Here we are talking of a 150 metre stretch of road of a vital highway in one of the world's biggest exporters of industrial products. Japan would be bound to throw all its resources in restoring vital road links as soon as possible.
If you look at the first picture of the damaged road, no concrete has been used, just compacted soil and hardcore topped up with a thick layer of tarmac (Asphalt to you Americans). Excavation of the damaged section, filling, compacting, filling and compacting again and again for a gang of workers working with heavy machinery in shifts 24 hrs a day, can take 6 days or less I assure you.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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Jus Blazin wrote:@jason, while you are it, doing all that you are doing, please visit Pluto and see if life exists. While to us it's an impressive passing story, wewe umeenda full throttle, making calls, forensic anaylsis, blah, blah, blah.
You see, while we are busy investing, what are you busy doing? Trying to prove a point to Kenyans thousands of miles away? ABK!!! @Jus Blazin  What next? Perhaps we should submit pictures of our favorite xxx stars for analysis to see if they visited Dr 90210 and therefore naturally endowed?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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@ Jus Blaze
My interest in this is because one of the projects that I am looking at investing heavily in is road construction in Kenya. In large-scale construction, time=money, and to be able to construct roads this quickly is a miracle, if truly possible, and can save millions of dollars because of reduced crew, fuel, insurance, equipment rental and misc carrying costs. This is extremely important for me to know, and it has not been confirmed. This is real money we are talking here, so, in case Just Blazin hasn't heard of DUE DILIGENCE, wherein anything not verified, especially when speaking of investments, and especially when it is in the "record breaking, never before" realm, needs to be put through the proverbial wringer, I really expected a Financial Wisdom forum to be supporting of my skepticism, especially since the reactor at Fukushima is STILL spilling radiation (but the road to hell is fixed, yay!).
If the Japanese did do this, you can bet the Chinese will figure out how to do it cheaper, the Americans will figure out how to get the Japanese to do it for them, and the Indians will figure out how to make people "think" they can do it. All of these are ACTIONS that MAKE MONEY. What will you do? Make more wheelbarrow jokes and complain about how some office lacks carpet? That's not me. I GET THINGS DONE. If it's possible in Japan, it's possible in Kenya. The same sun rises and sets over both places.
As far as why I spend time here in wazua talking about these things... where else is there on the net to do so? I found another Kenyan site... Mashada... good god. I thought I was in high school again. And folks on the ground, they are conservative... I can't get a clear story, only an overly rosy or overly sad one. No, Wazua is very valuable- worth far more than you think in understanding Kenyan business trends.
More important than that however, is my utter disbelief with Kenyan investment in self-hate. I truly can't stand hearing all the anti-Kenyan jokes, murmuring, complaining, and self-doubt FROM Kenyans, while hearing praise and adoration to other nations, whenever the Western-controlled news reels start spinning. This is a competition, and you don't cheer for the other team, you work to improve your own. You encourage your own. You never go onto the field PLANNING to and THINKING that you will lose, or you most certainly will. It's really sickening. Is this what I am in for in relocating to Kenya? Will it take an Acata like myself that doesn't know about tribes or can't-do attitudes to get people past this nonsense? Will it take me telling a capable, educated population that they are ready to be the next India or Brazil, while they tell me I am crazy and that it is impossible? Will you believe in yourself for ONE moment? I don't mean to offend anyone, but, hey, look, Moi is gone (thanks for the free milk, right) and Kibaki has made great strides, and most of you aren't even old enough to really remember the bad bad Moi days. So now what is the excuse? If you don't like how the MPs are doing it, or that the Muhindis out-earn you in your own land, or the Chinese way, dammit, stop whining and investing in other people's companies and build your own. Seek out your own tenders. Pay some kitu kidogo and LIKE IT because at least you are in the game- everywhere in the world, wheels must be greased and pockets lined. There is NOTHING that Kenya and her people can't do if the self-hate would stop. There is no better place in the WORLD to build a business for little capital, right now. Forget about the dream of doing Manoki work in the States just so that you can watch 500 channels of drivel while working for slave wages- it is leftover mind-screw from colonialism, and it all needs to END NOW! So let's DO business!
P.S. This only applies to who it applies to, so if with me you now have an issue, IT'S YOU.
Best Wishes,
Mister Hill
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 131 Location: kenya
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Well said jason; couldn't put it in better way!
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