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Supa ongea
K22
#31 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:24:00 PM
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Finally,they took the advise

Randomly insane

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McReggae
#32 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:05:00 PM
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Djinn,take into accound da fact dat a densely populated area has much more BTSs than a sparcely populated area. I also got info dat da system has been set to automatically charge low income areas less read universities,slums n rural kenya!

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VituVingiSana
#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:00 PM
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I have moved to YU... lakini I tried the supa ongea in the morning... the bastards' USSD (*155#) said ati 'The service is currently unavailable'.... **____** U know I prefer YU... I pay 7.50 across networks. Simple... no waiting 1 minute for the USSD message to kick in... and when it does,it tells me 'The service is currently unavailable'...
****_______**** Also on yu-yu I get FREE sms... as well as 50 cents/min after 2 minutes (I do not like this... I like simple).
*****______ SIMPLICITY is what I want... not these brain-busting calculations!!!
*****_____ I do NOT work for YU lakini I am a Member. I was turned on by the free sms. I use it a lot with folks on YU.

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AlphDoti
#34 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:51:00 PM
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@djin you're a bright chap.

But take into consideration @mcraggae observation that densely populated areas have more BTSs than a sparcely populated area. Hence less population few BTSs and higher population more BTSs and they cancel out.


AKS
VituVingiSana
#35 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:38:00 PM
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Now that deal @cxz makes sense... Pay UGshs 500 (Kes 20) per day for the discounts all day. This safcon thing is krazy... or confusing. I hope Zain brings that to Kenya.

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
chris79
#36 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:07:00 PM
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@VVS,would you prefer it if safcon charged a flat rate of 3 bob per minute then not be able to call at all? Because that's what's going to happen from past experience. Supa Ongea is a good compromise,it reduces the herd mentality that occurs with peak-off peak model,ie everybody calling at the same time...

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chris79
#37 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:13:00 PM
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And I thought Zain had already experimented with something like what cxz is suggesting in the name of Club20. If I recall correctly it backfired spectacularly and has never been heard of again. I don't think view'll wish to burn their fingers a second time round...

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VituVingiSana
#38 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:27:00 PM
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@chris79 - I think club20 was only sms (all day for 20/-)... lakini I may be mistaken... They tried Vuka Ji-something @ 65 for unlimited z-z calls from 6am-6pm... that was very very good... I used it a lot...

*** The difference between the UG plan & Kenya plan is that u pay 20/- lakini the calls are NOT free/unlimited but discounted...

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
simonkabz
#39 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:39:00 AM
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@vvs,club 20 used 2b unlimited calls after 2200hrs upto 6am.

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Djinn
#40 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:19:00 AM
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@McReggea and AlphaDoti - yes,they may have more BTS but the issue is SWITCHING CAPACITY - each BTS relays calls to the MSC (Mobile swithcing centre,which I belive is located at old safcom house) - its from there that all calls are re routed to be relayed to other BTS. If you are sitting somewhere in Embakasi and want to call someone in Buru Buru - your call will not 'hop' across into Eastlands,rather it will hop to Westlands FIRST,then back to Eastlands. So when looking at that capacity,if there are few BTS in a crowded area,then you have frequently dropped calls and poor quality of service. It is especially a problem in the CBD - signal strength is very poor despite many BTS.



SO in a way SCOM is trying to improve quality of service by deterring too much traffic in high population areas during the day (here is the thing,people will always check to see if its a good time to call....when the network is less congested,it will show a low tariff,when its highly congested like on Friday from 1700-2100,people WILL see high tariffs and decide whether they really need to make the usual 'Uko Wapi?' call to their buddies.....so its both about enhancing QoS and also about leveraging in high traffic areas. My two meticals

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