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Kenyans’ obsession with owning property doesn’t always lead to a handsome reward
Seles83
#1 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 7:27:21 AM
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Hi,

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/6qgbpr/-/index.html

For those who are keen to jump in Real Estate investment, the above BD article gives a whole new perspective in Real Estate investment in terms of capital gains...

I do agree with writer, but to be honest owning a house should be the ultimate goal and not a tool for capital appreciation. 100% and 95% mortgage financing should be discouraged at all costs, people should buy what they can afford not just because they can...

If the current situation is not arrested soon enough, Guys will be renting 20k per month, while the owner is repaying mortgage a 30 yr at 60k per month!!!!
More monies, more problems...
2012
#2 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 10:19:14 AM
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That's a very good 'reality check' article.
I have a friend who's returning for good from the states, he had 20m to invest and asked us where he should invest this money. I advised him to put it in the 30yr bond but he wanted something more immediate and that he can see so he's bought an apartment for 13m on Denis Prit hapo Alfajiri - Citizen and something in South B for 6m. 1m went to lawyers and other fees.
Now his rental income though are supposedly 65k and 19k respectively since one apartment is not occupied.
So, while the bond would have earned him 166k headachlessly every month, he will now earn 84k with + headaches per month. Anyway you never know, his might still be the better option with time.

BBI will solve it
:)
Seles83
#3 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 11:19:35 AM
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What happened to Denis Prit appartment, no tenant or the guy bought it off the plan..
More monies, more problems...
Injere
#4 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 5:03:25 PM
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No offence meant but the article misses the point by a wide berth...start by looking at the how the return is calculated.I can only say the english is good.I rest my case.
mukiha
#5 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 5:17:17 PM
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@Injere; the writer also misses the point that while inflation will eat away on the principal investment of the bond, the house will ride the inflation wave like surfer on a sea wave.... sometimes even overtaking it.....
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
young
#6 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 5:20:56 PM
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The bottom line is one has to do a rethink of investing in real estate as a retailer by mortgage financing .

It does not pay because the rental income is always far lower than the monthly mortgage payment as the property prices appreciates faster than the rental income.

Besides the interest rate for mortgage is very high. Most cases for a mortgage loan of 5 Million ksh an investor is likely to pay back 12 Million Ksh or more over 15 years.

I do not subscribe to mortgage as a way of investing in real estate.

Also make no mistake about it, you CANNOT compare investing in real estate to bonds. In bonds the capital invested is static though the initial returns is higher but if you have your capital the value of your property will be increasing , so investing in real estate is better on the long term , as it is a hedge against inflation.
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2012
#7 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 5:24:31 PM
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Seles83 wrote:
What happened to Denis Prit appartment, no tenant or the guy bought it off the plan..


At that time they were doing final touches which were deterring tenants from taking up the apartments and that area has quite a number of empty apartments competing. Also, most of them were unwilling to pay 65k and were offering 60k.

BBI will solve it
:)
mukiha
#8 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 5:43:34 PM
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young wrote:
The bottom line is one has to do a rethink of investing in real estate as a retailer by mortgage financing .

It does not pay because the rental income is always far lower than the monthly mortgage payment as the property prices appreciates faster than the rental income.

Besides the interest rate for mortgage is very high. Most cases for a mortgage loan of 5 Million ksh an investor is likely to pay back 12 Million Ksh or more over 15 years.

I do not subscribe to mortgage as a way of investing in real estate.

Also make no mistake about it, you CANNOT compare investing in real estate to bonds. In bonds the capital invested is static though the initial returns is higher but if you have your capital the value of your property will be increasing , so investing in real estate is better on the long term , as it is a hedge against inflation.

My experience is that in about 7 to 10 years, the rent will increase to cover the mortgage repayment... at least in Nairobi.

Still; you are right, one must think carefully about using mortgage to invest in rental property. It makes more sense when thinking about home buying. In that case, you can always knock off the rent you'd be paying. But in most cases, the mortgage on the house you are renting comes to about double the rent you are paying today....
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
fantony
#9 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 5:46:21 PM
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if she knew that most people have to subsidise a mortgage payment after getting rent from their pockets we would be in bigger problems...

can i tell the buru buru story again?


Renegade
#10 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 8:11:10 PM
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Young, you are indeed right, although there are exceptions e.g. financing real estate development for sale.

On the other hand bond returns will be static if you hold the bond to maturity. But one can trade the bond and make a capital gain (loss)just as you can sell the property.

young wrote:
The bottom line is one has to do a rethink of investing in real estate as a retailer by mortgage financing .

It does not pay because the rental income is always far lower than the monthly mortgage payment as the property prices appreciates faster than the rental income.

Besides the interest rate for mortgage is very high. Most cases for a mortgage loan of 5 Million ksh an investor is likely to pay back 12 Million Ksh or more over 15 years.

I do not subscribe to mortgage as a way of investing in real estate.

Also make no mistake about it, you CANNOT compare investing in real estate to bonds. In bonds the capital invested is static though the initial returns is higher but if you have your capital the value of your property will be increasing , so investing in real estate is better on the long term , as it is a hedge against inflation.

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