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KCB @ 90 bob by end year!?!
qw25041985
#21 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 7:28:23 PM
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@ MatataMingi . whilst u are still dwelling on old news i made today a sweet 25k trading currencies...life's good...JOIN FOREX.
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
MatataMingi
#22 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 7:48:35 PM
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@QW
Good for you. I will get in touch as soon as I am back in Nbi. I WILL buy the drinks & maybe some bitings.

Take care, but still dont forget your dues to VVS.

Peace to you young guys.
erifloss
#23 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 7:57:18 PM
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90 is too good to think of though it won't get there this year, what i'm kind of sure of is that Kcb might be going past 30 before July reasons being:
1. As the triton loan had been provided for previously which directly affected earnings & with the positive court ruling we expect some increase in earnings to the tune of the recovery.
2. S&L can now provide upto a billion to one client on mortgage financing & are going to provide the same in UG, TZ, SS & Rwanda.
3. Improvement in the cost to income ratio
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qw25041985
#24 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 8:01:43 PM
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You know for sure we are in a BULL MARKET when people cough up such imaginative ideas...k.c.b @ 100 lol lol lol
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youcan'tstopusnow
#25 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 8:33:37 PM
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erifloss, I thought KCB could lend as much as 6B to one client. Ama ni mimi niliona vibaya?
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Ali Baba
#26 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 9:29:51 PM
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That KCB idea of lending sh 1b or 6B to one client is not a good one.Do you know why KCB looses money in cases like Triton Oil scandal? Its because you lend sh 5B to one client and then he defaults paying.....that's why James Mwangi of Equity is right.He can lend sh 1B to one client but he prefers 10,000 people to borrow that 1b that way,even if they default,at least some will pay.Anyway, my 2 cents.....
Cde Monomotapa
#27 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 10:05:18 PM
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1B To 10,000 who mostly don't knw what they r doing is riskier than 1B to one who knows what s/he is doing. My 2 cents as well...
youcan'tstopusnow
#28 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 10:22:35 PM
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Ali Baba wrote:
That KCB idea of lending sh 1b or 6B to one client is not a good one.Do you know why KCB looses money in cases like Triton Oil scandal? Its because you lend sh 5B to one client and then he defaults paying.....that's why James Mwangi of Equity is right.He can lend sh 1B to one client but he prefers 10,000 people to borrow that 1b that way,even if they default,at least some will pay.Anyway, my 2 cents.....

I hear you. KCB has had so many problems with 'big' defaulters. Investors can only hope that Oduor has ensured enough checks have been put in place to screen potential loanees. With government shareholding going down, maybe there won't be any more favouring
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erifloss
#29 Posted : Monday, January 17, 2011 11:04:24 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
erifloss, I thought KCB could lend as much as 6B to one client. Ama ni mimi niliona vibaya?

I'm not sure whether its 6b but what i know for sure is that its above 1b. Its better to lend 1b to 1 person who's credit score & rating is good rather than 10,000 who are perceived as risky. Going forward, with the reduction of govt shareholding there'll definately be a reduction in bad loans. Why do you think that SCBK has got the lowest default rates & yet so profitable!
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ProverB
#30 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 10:18:49 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Hey Wawazua!!

This could be an exciting year when such optimistic forecasts are being thrown around!!

I bumped into an analyst who was telling me that they are seeing KCB at 90 bob!!

I was like you are out your mind. Personally I think when KCB can make like 3 bob eps then we can see 60 bob in 2011/2012.

A 200% flipper from today kama Scan last year.

Mnaonaje



..spectacular dream this was! sigh!!!! Eh?
wonder what the "analyst"'s qualifications are.
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#31 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 10:54:22 AM
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ProverB wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Hey Wawazua!!

This could be an exciting year when such optimistic forecasts are being thrown around!!

I bumped into an analyst who was telling me that they are seeing KCB at 90 bob!!

I was like you are out your mind. Personally I think when KCB can make like 3 bob eps then we can see 60 bob in 2011/2012.

A 200% flipper from today kama Scan last year.

Mnaonaje



..spectacular dream this was! sigh!!!! Eh?
wonder what the "analyst"'s qualifications are.


Reads the newspaper (not a Kenyan one though)
Does not live in Kenya
Degree and other qualifications printed at River Road
the deal
#32 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 11:29:22 AM
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hehehehe and the share cant get passed 23 bob.
Wendz
#33 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 2:23:12 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
1B To 10,000 who mostly don't knw what they r doing is riskier than 1B to one who knows what s/he is doing. My 2 cents as well...



They say, when the bank lends you 1k, its your problem to pay it back.... when it lends you 100m, its the bank's problem to get it back... or so it goes.

From what i have seen, those who borrower small amounts are more keen to pay back.... If you go to the village, if the folks dont pay up, its because they genuinely do not have the money and they "fear" defaults like an outbreak and they'd do anything not to be taken to court.

now, if the big guy is not paying up, ooooooh you know you are in bundus because he will take you round and round, in and out of all manner of courts with tens and tens of cases in different courts with all sorts of claims and delaying tactics..... There is also the aspect of risk management. With this, i am with JM all the way!

On KCB and the 90bob dream.... eeeeh, what did you call that guy again? if these are the sorts we are relying on for our investment advise, we shall die thousandaires in Zim terms!
Cde Monomotapa
#34 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 5:55:27 PM
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"I have been mis-qouted in addition to this being a ploy by my political enemies to finish me & community!!" - in other news...KCB Damu!!
Cde Monomotapa
#35 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 6:08:53 PM
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@Wendz..FYI Zim abandoned the Zim-dollar in FY2009. It is now a forex economy with the USD being the "official" currency. Even the stocks on the ZSE r in usd with an inflation rate of only 3.3%
hisah
#36 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 6:32:18 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
@Wendz..FYI Zim abandoned the Zim-dollar in FY2009. It is now a forex economy with the USD being the "official" currency. Even the stocks on the ZSE r in usd with an inflation rate of only 3.3%


And what happens when the dollar goes zap...? The zim guys should just kick out that pesky gov and their central bank... Bure kabisa...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#37 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 7:49:19 PM
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The Chinese are our longtime friends <supported the Zanu-PF geurilla movt against the whites> now they r the largest source of FDI so we will switch to the Yuan when the USD tanks
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#38 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 11:48:32 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
@ MatataMingi . whilst u are still dwelling on old news i made today a sweet 25k trading currencies...life's good...JOIN FOREX.


Note to self: 'Need to find out about forex trading!!'d'oh!
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Genghis Khan
#39 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:22:27 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
1B To 10,000 who mostly don't knw what they r doing is riskier than 1B to one who knows what s/he is doing. My 2 cents as well...


One who can borrow 1B and knows what s/he is doing might do YOU...d'oh! (lender).

Diversification works fairly well in controlling risk... it works even better on credit risk!

Generally, there is sufficiently little correlation among individual borrowers to justify diversification (ie. the don't move in a herd like stocks... they don't collude & decide not to pay). Larger loans are (in risk theory) riskier that smaller ones.

I do not refer to 1B as a specific amount... just generally larger loans to smaller ones. In our market maybe 50m... maybe 100m... maybe 250m... these amounts require higher prudence i think.

Also in markets like ours, some larger borrowers usually have both the muscle to irregularly get the debt & the muscle to avoid footing the bill.


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Cde Monomotapa
#40 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:37:15 PM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
1B To 10,000 who mostly don't knw what they r doing is riskier than 1B to one who knows what s/he is doing. My 2 cents as well...


One who can borrow 1B and knows what s/he is doing might do YOU...d'oh!

Just buy into the bank already. Unlike the 10K guys, most of the 1B businesses & or people have reputations to keep.
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