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Luo culture is considerate
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#1 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 9:03:42 AM
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Am defending a paper on Luo Culture. I hope to get oppinions on whether the story in article below is influenced by cutlrue or the envirinment by the lake side. personally, i would argue its the environment. but my professor has challenged me to explain why the same does not happen in uganda and tanzania side of the lake or at the coast. Here is a passage form the paper.
Miriam is one such woman. She has two children and is widowed. She comes to the beach early in the morning and will be off by 11am. All she does is wait for a specific boat, get the day’s catch, sell some, carry home a little for lunch and then wait for a knock at the door of her rented house in the evening by the leader of the boat.

They will have sex and then he goes off for night fishing. This is the way she has kept her job for the last two years.

When six young men got off a motorboat at Remba Island from the mainland sometime back, all they had in mind was to fish for two months, sell some of their catch and bring the remainder back to the mainland once the two months was done. That was their plan, at least. They did not know that on the island was a group of old women who preyed on young men from far off places.

http://www.standardmedia...9;%20on%20the%20lakeside


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#2 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 10:22:35 AM
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Where does tribe come in?
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#3 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 10:23:11 AM
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What ties the title of the thread(in this case, your paper) to the story? And this doesn't look like a serious academic paper or have we changed the way we write academic papers these days? At least not the quality from someone from the lakeside...... Ask your predecessors... they would tear you apart with this! Ngai, i think i am ancient....

There are many arguments to defend that environmental impact to the lake culture (i wouldn't call it Luo Culture).... but put your abstract here, then we shall know whether what we are contributing makes sense in light of your title and abstract or not.
Magigi
#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:08:59 AM
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Obama cites Kenya’s Luo culture in talk on polygamy
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/397ey7z/-/index.html

“In Kenya, for example, in the Luo tribe, polygamy existed,” the president said after noting that his father was Kenyan.

“It was based on the idea that women had their own compounds, they had their own land, and so they were empowered in that area to be self-sufficient.”

But with men moving to cities to work and perhaps starting other families there, women left behind in villages may have lost that power, Mr Obama continued.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:50:26 AM
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perhaps the conundrum here is the confusion of the terms
1. Culture
2. Traditions
3. Rites and customs


Culture is anything but stagnant! the culture of Luos in Nairobi is different from that of Luos in Bondo. The culture of Luos in Nairobi is similar to that of Kikuyus in Nairobi. The culture of Kikuyus in Nairobi is different from Kikuyus in Mashambani!

Here is the culture iceberg

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Magigi
#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:56:11 AM
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@Masukuma...You are wrong... Kikuyu culture never changes...
...Even in America a Kikuyu will still be a Kikuyu

http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/jvcwgh/-/index.html
There are two reg ions in the US that are predominantly Kikuyu. Boston, especially the cities of Worcester and Lowell. Then there is the Atlanta area especially Marietta. Social functions in these places appear, feel and sound more like they are taking place in either Murang’a or Nyeri. For instance, children born in the US to Kenyan parents in Lowell sing in near perfect Kikuyu.

...which is a very good thing!!!
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:04:18 PM
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Magigi wrote:
@Masukuma...You are wrong... Kikuyu culture never changes...
...Even in America a Kikuyu will still be a Kikuyu

http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/jvcwgh/-/index.html
There are two reg ions in the US that are predominantly Kikuyu. Boston, especially the cities of Worcester and Lowell. Then there is the Atlanta area especially Marietta. Social functions in these places appear, feel and sound more like they are taking place in either Murang’a or Nyeri. For instance, children born in the US to Kenyan parents in Lowell sing in near perfect Kikuyu.

...which is a very good thing!!!

before disputing my point have you sought to find out 'WHAT CULTURE IS?' Culture is an iceberg! what you think is culture is only 3% of what is known. Language is not culture! Let me ask a question. When in Shags Kyuk mamas meet on the road side and stop. Wanatoa ushuhuda and find out how each other is doing... the interaction takes 5 minutes or more. In those sub cultures you have pointed out - do people do exactly the same? there is no such thing as kikuyu culture - it was there but culture changes when people move to new places. What you mean is 'traditions' - mtu atazikwa aje? mtu ataoa wapi? e.t.c. cuisine is also part of culture! culture is what you do on a daily basis!
Do the kikuyus of Marietta, Worcester and Lowell have the same weight to religious matters as those of Muranga and Nyeri? Heck even the culture in Muranga and Nyeri maybe different. Culture is a thing that is dynamic and changing. Worldviews changing... status of things like what to do to unwedded pregnant women are pointers to this fact.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:35:36 PM
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^^ Hapo kuna point. Luo culture in Bondo is not the same as the Luo Culture at Carnivore.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:50:07 PM
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Magigi wrote:
Obama cites Kenya’s Luo culture in talk on polygamy
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/397ey7z/-/index.html

“In Kenya, for example, in the Luo tribe, polygamy existed,” the president said after noting that his father was Kenyan.

“It was based on the idea that women had their own compounds, they had their own land, and so they were empowered in that area to be self-sufficient.”

But with men moving to cities to work and perhaps starting other families there, women left behind in villages may have lost that power, Mr Obama continued.


This was uncalled for. Very bad behavior kusomea watu ovyo ovyo! He would not be existing were his father not polygamous!
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jaggernaut
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:25:15 AM
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Is it true that according to "the culture" a man must have sex with his wife before he can plant his farm. Same with harvesting. And that you can't plant or harvest before your dad or the village elder has done it? That widows also have to find partners to sleep with before they can plant or harvest?
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#11 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:41:12 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Is it true that according to "the culture" a man must have sex with his wife before he can plant his farm. Same with harvesting. And that you can't plant or harvest before your dad or the village elder has done it? That widows also have to find partners to sleep with before they can plant or harvest?


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#12 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:44:17 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Is it true that according to "the culture" a man must have sex with his wife before he can plant his farm. Same with harvesting. And that you can't plant or harvest before your dad or the village elder has done it? That widows also have to find partners to sleep with before they can plant or harvest?


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#13 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:20:34 PM
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Impunity wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Is it true that according to "the culture" a man must have sex with his wife before he can plant his farm. Same with harvesting. And that you can't plant or harvest before your dad or the village elder has done it? That widows also have to find partners to sleep with before they can plant or harvest?


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Wacha kucheka, it is true. The ritual is called golo kodhi. Read more about it here:

www.blog.cygopinath.com/...y/about-sorghum-and-sex/
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#14 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:08:09 PM
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harrydre wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Is it true that according to "the culture" a man must have sex with his wife before he can plant his farm. Same with harvesting. And that you can't plant or harvest before your dad or the village elder has done it? That widows also have to find partners to sleep with before they can plant or harvest?


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