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Safaricom Restructure or downsizing?
Mkimwa
#61 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:37:49 PM
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Whenever there is a change of CEO, there will be a restructuring. Remember Bob has been sitting on the board of safaricom since 2006, he has his own ideas on how to run the company. In order to implement these ideas, he needs a structure that will align to his thinking, and he needs his people at the hem. People he can trust to deliver on those ideas.

I have seen it happen where I work, and truth be said, there will be loss of jobs, whether by resignation of persons relocated to other posts, or by outright retrenchment.

This may also be a cost cutting initiative, by streamlining operations, BUT i think it has more to do with putting his strategy in place.
Hunderwear
#62 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:59:42 PM
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@Wazuans,now that they are letting the cat out tomorrow and CCK is set to lower the interconnection fees later this year are they likely to go the telkom way by axing part/more of the workforce?
Cde Monomotapa
#63 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23:20 PM
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Hunderwear wrote:
@Wazuans,now that they are letting the cat out tomorrow and CCK is set to lower the interconnection fees later this year are they likely to go the telkom way by axing part/more of the workforce?

That will be most prudent. The pain of a few for the benifit of many. (sounds like ICC process, he he)
PKoli
#64 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:48:16 PM
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Anyone with numbers about the call rates in other parts of Africa and possibly India compared to Kenya. This should give us a feeling about whether our rates are the lowest. Obviously there are other factors to consider such as the country’s GDP per capita, but we cam leave out the developed countries in the analysis.
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#65 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:29:53 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Hunderwear wrote:
@Wazuans,now that they are letting the cat out tomorrow and CCK is set to lower the interconnection fees later this year are they likely to go the telkom way by axing part/more of the workforce?

That will be most prudent. The pain of a few for the benifit of many. (sounds like ICC process, he he)

For the greater good, some would say
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VituVingiSana
#66 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:44:59 PM
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In many 'developed' countries calling rates are very, very low if you buy 1 month's service.

My cousin in USA tells me he pays $60 [all taxes included] for unlimited calls to any USA network, unlimited SMS to any USA network & 2Gbs of data!!!

Apparently in India, Airtel charges less than Rs1 [KShs 2] per minute so when we pay 3/- we are 50% higher!
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bird_man
#67 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:59:04 PM
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VVS . . . .maybe you should also compare the population numbers in those 2 countries Vs kenya.You may make 2cents profit but multiply that by the huge huge indian population and you have billions safcom only dreams about.
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PKoli
#68 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:25:34 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
In many 'developed' countries calling rates are very, very low if you buy 1 month's service.

My cousin in USA tells me he pays $60 [all taxes included] for unlimited calls to any USA network, unlimited SMS to any USA network & 2Gbs of data!!!

Apparently in India, Airtel charges less than Rs1 [KShs 2] per minute so when we pay 3/- we are 50% higher!


It appears we are paying dearly for data. I think after interconnection reductions (which only affects voice), our voice rates are relatively low. I spend about about US$10 in a couple of days when using safcom broadband..
VituVingiSana
#69 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:55:28 AM
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bird_man wrote:
VVS . . . .maybe you should also compare the population numbers in those 2 countries Vs kenya.You may make 2cents profit but multiply that by the huge huge indian population and you have billions safcom only dreams about.
Not a fair comparison coz Safcom needs to invest substantially less vs USA/India too in infrastructure!

Perhaps, I should use Singapore as an example where a few years ago it was about 8 cents/minute [which was 6/-] when safaricom was a minimum of 12/-.
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bird_man
#70 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:46:15 AM
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VVS true on the infrastructure costs.
However,the mobile industry took off in year 2000 in Kenya's case unlike Singapore where its been in operation for long.Most mobile companies have built on infrastructure from Zero to the current case where we have ,clear calls,sms,mms,3g internet,MPESA,Mpesa agents in your estate,paybill etc.All these costs a lot of money.
I just think they want to recoup their investment money TODAY as opposed to slowly over the next 10yrs.
I think the same goes for Fibre Optic investments in Kenya and why Kenyan ISPs don't want to lower costs today.
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VituVingiSana
#71 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:57:52 AM
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@bird_man So they want a 100% ROA? Not 100% ROE but 100% on ROA? A 100% ROA in an industry that leverages 50% = 200% ROE...

Very outsized profits!
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selah
#72 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:14:51 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
In many 'developed' countries calling rates are very, very low if you buy 1 month's service.

My cousin in USA tells me he pays $60 [all taxes included] for unlimited calls to any USA network, unlimited SMS to any USA network & 2Gbs of data!!!

Apparently in India, Airtel charges less than Rs1 [KShs 2] per minute so when we pay 3/- we are 50% higher!


These comparison does not factor in the cost of doing business.In India energy cost are lower and government is willing to offer incentives for companies venturing into rural areas secondly by reducing to that level the growth of the industry in that country is slower which has even started to affect the quality of service.

In USA the penetration rate is more than 80% compare to kenyas 50% then the cost of doing business their is also low given that the economy in most cases is predictable unlike here in kenya.

I think currently we have only one 3G operator this shows how costly it is to put up such infrastructure now how do you think this companies will break even if they were to charge the same price as established market.
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VituVingiSana
#73 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:29:20 PM
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@selah - I disagree!

No business environment is predictable. USA, Kenya, India, etc! Unless you have a monopoly or some other advantage, most firms in most countries have to face consumer & market forces...

No idea about energy costs in India but is energy use a huge portion of telecom costs? What percentage?

Even India just got 3G so the expansion has just started. Safaricom has an advantage over the rest! [I use Safaricom data coz even though pricier it is faster & reliable vs Airtel or Orange]

So in USA the telcos fight against each other but in Kenya the market is still open which means acquisition costs for Safaricom are LOWER than USA carriers!
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