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hand guided motorised ploughs
Ganu Denu
#1 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 3:32:05 PM
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Dear Wazuans has any of the house members had experience with the hand guided motorised ploughs. How are their performance and what counsel would one give. I am thinking of acquiring one but needs to know more about them.Thanks
fantony
#2 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 3:45:51 PM
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not so useful fact- JKUAT copied this model from someplace and started reproducing models around 2001
leona
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:27:11 PM
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Would be interested to know more too...

@Ganu Danu
Have you researched on places to buy?how much are they going for? (As we await the experiemces of other usesrs..)
Nevermind what haters say, ignore them til they fade away - Just live your life
Ganu Denu
#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:52:04 AM
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@Leona
Saw some in River Road: Nairobi, will get you the details in due course
Ganu Denu
#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:10:36 PM
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Check Marina Machineries, 2 floor KFA along Haile selassie near Wakulima mkt parking Bay there is a Chinese there they go for about 200,000.00
jasonhill
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:05:20 AM
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Please describe exactly what you are talking about (sorry, I'm not very versed in agriculture equipment) and I will check what they are going for here in the states, and see how much it would cost to ship a container-full to .ke, and if it makes business sense, we could work something out.

Americans like to buy new or buy bigger instead of repairing items that are used, so there may be very good deals on used but useful farm equipment here in the states that may be better served overseas.

Thanks & Best,

Hill
JkMwatha
#7 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:59:39 AM
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Ganu Denu wrote:
Check Marina Machineries, 2 floor KFA along Haile selassie near Wakulima mkt parking Bay there is a Chinese there they go for about 200,000.00


What sizes/HP/weight etc. are you talking about?

1.


2.


Or are talking about the one's on their website http://www.marinakenya.com/harvester_walking.html ?



jasonhill
#8 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:06:16 AM
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I need to know the width of the tiller and the size of the motor that you are looking at.

Best,

Hill
tmn@carmel
#9 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:36:59 PM
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Hi all

I visited some companies in industrial area late last year. I had similar interest. They are available there with all accessories (Plough dics, harrow and trailer if you want). Price range then was approx 180-200K but could be different now. I will pop in same outlets and drop in contacts when I go next - though I am usually busy out in the field on weekends.

I have seen them in use. Very handy especially if you train someone on usage. Very suitable for small scale, much better than oxen & can easily subsidize by doing commercializing to gain fuel & labour costs. It ploughs up to 2 acres per day and runs on diesel engine. Mainly Chinese and India made but few could be Korean origin.

I would guess the US origin units are likely to be more robust and better. I am interested to know what it will cost to import the 2nd hand ones and can easily market them in farming zones.

@MtCarmel

jasonhill
#10 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 5:40:59 AM
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tmn@carmel wrote:
Hi all

I visited some companies in industrial area late last year. I had similar interest. They are available there with all accessories (Plough dics, harrow and trailer if you want). Price range then was approx 180-200K but could be different now. I will pop in same outlets and drop in contacts when I go next - though I am usually busy out in the field on weekends.

I have seen them in use. Very handy especially if you train someone on usage. Very suitable for small scale, much better than oxen & can easily subsidize by doing commercializing to gain fuel & labour costs. It ploughs up to 2 acres per day and runs on diesel engine. Mainly Chinese and India made but few could be Korean origin.

I would guess the US origin units are likely to be more robust and better. I am interested to know what it will cost to import the 2nd hand ones and can easily market them in farming zones.

@MtCarmel



Hello MtCarmel,

I need a few specs- engine size, blade size, etc. that you are interested in, and then I can tell you what they go for here.

Also, I need to know if there are any import duties that I would have to pay at the port of Mombasa.

Best,

Hill
Nicky thompson
#11 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 9:10:11 AM
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anyone has the useful life on this baby, maintenance cost, diesel consumption per acre and the cost of operating??? This is for cost benefit analysis and also compare it with manual work.....coz m thinking 200Gz on small scale..it best be worth it....
JkMwatha
#12 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 12:40:19 PM
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From the images above....
Available in the UK
The image 1. (large one with man) may cost in the region of ksh200k whlie image 2 may set you back approx. ksh80k
Various engine models including Honda.

New or refurbished.
Used/untested will be cheaper.

The weight of the smaller on should be in the region of 60-75kg

Depending on mode of Delivery,
air freight- £3.50 per kg (7 days delivery)
Sea - aprox. £2 per kg. (£1= Ksh143)

These form of delivery include the cost of clearing.

Spare parts are also available.
tmn@carmel
#13 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 1:12:09 PM
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Hi Nicky and Jasonhill

Thanks for both your responses.
Like the few I have seen used here, from 15-18HP (11-13KW diesel engines max 20HP will do. Talking from experience, I see potential especially if tested and marketed well. Most rural small scale farmers have 1/2 -5 acre farm holdings and during land preparation/planting season the demand for heavy duty tractors is high and scarce with higher costs.
At the moment, all Agricultural equipment is zero rated duty in Kenya

Operating costs: I will have to work this out later but I belief this is definitely cheaper than large engine capacity (normal) tractor. In farming zones the critical things are availability of support (parts and maintenance-skill). This cannot be compared with manual tilling. Casual labour costs have gone very high with high costs on managing labour and poor quality of work. Most farmers dont prefer to use manual labour anymore fro normal tilling. In some areas Oxen driven tillers are used but these cannot compare with engine operated.

Please contact me on tmongare@gmail.com we discuss more





longman
#14 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:47:26 PM
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Did anyone of you manage to get the unit. How is it performing? Is it worth it? What additional equopment can the unit work with - pump, seed drill?
chiaroscuro
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:52:50 PM
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These thing are very popular with peasant farmers in China... I guess you can't feed 1.5b mouths with jembes and pangas!
longman
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:40:29 PM
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Am looking for someone currently using the unit around Nairobi.
Apple Bees
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:17:27 PM
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Anyone who's used this in Kenya? How was it?
haronmogeni
#18 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 3:01:27 PM
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I don't think buying or using the machines will be good idea. i once used one that was 35HP. this machine used to vibrate so much such that by the end of the day i was so tired.

I stopped using it because the vibrations pit so much strain on my backbone.

I doubt if one can plow 2 acres as claimed by some people, the maximum that can be done is 1/4 an acre
Don't throw away good money by buying this tractor
mmarto
#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:35:37 AM
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haronmogeni wrote:
I don't think buying or using the machines will be good idea. i once used one that was 35HP. this machine used to vibrate so much such that by the end of the day i was so tired.

I stopped using it because the vibrations pit so much strain on my backbone.

I doubt if one can plow 2 acres as claimed by some people, the maximum that can be done is 1/4 an acre
Don't throw away good money by buying this tractor


But can you use them as planters? I gues then there will be no strain/vibrations.
The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
AlphDoti
#20 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:51:01 AM
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mmarto wrote:
haronmogeni wrote:
I don't think buying or using the machines will be good idea. i once used one that was 35HP. this machine used to vibrate so much such that by the end of the day i was so tired.

I stopped using it because the vibrations pit so much strain on my backbone.

I doubt if one can plow 2 acres as claimed by some people, the maximum that can be done is 1/4 an acre
Don't throw away good money by buying this tractor


But can you use them as planters? I gues then there will be no strain/vibrations.

The problem with us is image. Those Chinese do not care whether you'll look dusty or not. They go for efficiency.

But if it makes you so tired at the end of the day, then the question is whether to go for an old, but good condition tractor with same horse-power like Massey 135 (35HP) Think

Sometimes, I hire oxen guys for sh400/acre if the area is small and my tractor cannot do it effectively (limited turning space)
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