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the deal
#21 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:22:04 PM
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Banks are crushing...i cant believe what i'm seeing.

KCB now 21.75
Aguytrying
#22 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:26:08 PM
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Mwanahisa. envious of your cash pile. Oh dear lord, i cant believe the deals im seeing with good fundamentals. Kcb at 21.50, kplc. 20.00. Equity 24.00! I will discipline myself to have a liquidity part of the portfolio for these times.
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Impunity
#23 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:26:36 PM
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Nina Furaha.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:27:06 PM
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the deal wrote:
Banks are crushing...i cant believe what i'm seeing.

KCB now 21.75


Dude... market has been on a retrace for over 8 weeks... financials remained unaffected bcoz of expectations..now there's nothing much to hedge them from following overall market trend.. Hakuna crush hapa. smile
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Impunity
#25 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:29:16 PM
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Disposed of my Kenya-Re pains at 14% loss,waiting to join Kengen/KPLC at the next "available" station.
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The Merchant
#26 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:30:38 PM
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This is my idea. Contributions are welcome.

One,including myself, would rather sell ALL their holdings right now and take say a 20% loss. This is because this market has all the signs of tumbling further. After the market falls by say more than 30% in the next 2 or so months, one can buy SOME shares for companies which are have good dividends and bonuses eg KCB,NIC,DTB. At that time most of this stocks should be severely undervalued and will be bargains. At that time the 20% loss won't feel so bad as it will be more than recovered by subsequent capital gains,dividends and bonuses.

So off I go to take my substantial loss. The best of times lie ahead.
mwanahisa
#27 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:58:48 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
These prices are indeed very enticing. I am already dipping in cautiously as I had built up a cash pile.

Even with the downside risks, any share with a historical PE of less than 10, with a history of consistent profit growth and with a good dividend is a tolerable risk. KCB & KPLC here I come.


My order for KPLC has been completed at 20.Having sold my rights at 24, I am happy to pick up the share at this level. Maybe I am jumping the gun but I believe in taking a risk. At 20 my shares are only 50 cents (plus commision) more expensive than the rights.

And i great buy that was, certainly the best deal today. The stock, has since edged up and is on offer at 21, bids coming in at 20.75!


@SPT, You never know whether it was a great buy until it actually clears (T+4). The verdict will be out on Thursday next week when I will be ready to sell.
mwanahisa
#28 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:05:08 PM
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The Merchant wrote:
This is my idea. Contributions are welcome.

One,including myself, would rather sell ALL their holdings right now and take say a 20% loss. This is because this market has all the signs of tumbling further. After the market falls by say more than 30% in the next 2 or so months, one can buy SOME shares for companies which are have good dividends and bonuses eg KCB,NIC,DTB. At that time most of this stocks should be severely undervalued and will be bargains. At that time the 20% loss won't feel so bad as it will be more than recovered by subsequent capital gains,dividends and bonuses.

So off I go to take my substantial loss. The best of times lie ahead.


Are things really that bad? It may feel that way, but I am inclined to go against the grain. We all knew that the O6 were facing the PEV cases and yet share prices were stable/rising. In my view the main change are the events in the Middle East but shares in the West and other major markets, while volatile, have not fallen dramatically. Kenya's NSE has fallen disproportionately. This is when I love having Jubilee in my portfolio.

I will probably come to rue this, but I have started buying cautiously and I will continue looking for the bargains over the next few days/weeks.
The Merchant
#29 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:16:29 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
The Merchant wrote:
This is my idea. Contributions are welcome.

One,including myself, would rather sell ALL their holdings right now and take say a 20% loss. This is because this market has all the signs of tumbling further. After the market falls by say more than 30% in the next 2 or so months, one can buy SOME shares for companies which are have good dividends and bonuses eg KCB,NIC,DTB. At that time most of this stocks should be severely undervalued and will be bargains. At that time the 20% loss won't feel so bad as it will be more than recovered by subsequent capital gains,dividends and bonuses.

So off I go to take my substantial loss. The best of times lie ahead.


Are things really that bad? It may feel that way, but I am inclined to go against the grain. We all knew that the O6 were facing the PEV cases and yet share prices were stable/rising. In my view the main change are the events in the Middle East but shares in the West and other major markets, while volatile, have not fallen dramatically. Kenya's NSE has fallen disproportionately. This is when I love having Jubilee in my portfolio.

I will probably come to rue this, but I have started buying cautiously and I will continue looking for the bargains over the next few days/weeks.


I think they are that bad.Sad Hold your cash for now.Sad
the deal
#30 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:17:24 PM
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The biggest challenge is to know when the market will bottom out....@Hisah what are the charts saying?
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#31 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:47:35 PM
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the deal wrote:
The biggest challenge is to know when the market will bottom out....@Hisah what are the charts saying?
Puhleeze, no-one can predict with any degree on certainty when the bottom will happen!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#32 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:56:12 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
The biggest challenge is to know when the market will bottom out....@Hisah what are the charts saying?
Puhleeze, no-one can predict with any degree on certainty when the bottom will happen!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly i thought YBC or the QW chap would say they can..LOL.
VituVingiSana
#33 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:04:22 PM
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the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
The biggest challenge is to know when the market will bottom out....@Hisah what are the charts saying?
Puhleeze, no-one can predict with any degree on certainty when the bottom will happen!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly i thought YBC or the QW chap would say they can..LOL.
KPLC even in the bear market has not reached 19.50 [there are bids for 100,000+ shares at 20.25]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#34 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:06:34 PM
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Speaking of big chair. Where's that post with predictions. He's not far off, now. Could he have a crystal ball, that say middle east crisis coming. Those waiting for a bottom of may be left still holding cash. No one knows, buy bargains slowly as you see them.
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slykat
#35 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:17:29 PM
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Yes! Things are thick. Weakening shilling without foreigners taking positions; rising inflation; drought; rising oil prices; the trial of two very big tribal leaders; elections in a year; constitutional crises caused by non-implementation of enabling Acts; prospects of coalition not lasting to the end real; civil war in Libya and Ivory coast and the prospects of more to come in sub-saharan Africa caused not by politics but by rising food prices and hunger. If that is not gloomy, what is? Hold, exit or sink...until 2013.
Kaffir
#36 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:17:47 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
The biggest challenge is to know when the market will bottom out....@Hisah what are the charts saying?
Puhleeze, no-one can predict with any degree on certainty when the bottom will happen!


It may be safer to slowly start buying into companies with good fundamentals, as opposed to waiting for the bottom. Ive started with KCB today.. Price is too enticing to ignore
VituVingiSana
#37 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:25:02 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Speaking of big chair. Where's that post with predictions. He's not far off, now. Could he have a crystal ball, that say middle east crisis coming. Those waiting for a bottom of may be left still holding cash. No one knows, buy bargains slowly as you see them.
That's like saying x will happen then disappear. If it happens, you come out to say I told you... And if not, stay quiet!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwanahisa
#38 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:03:20 PM
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Been quite a day at the races (mart). Managed to pick up KPLC @ 20, KCB @ 21.50 and a few thousand at 21.25. I had thought my order would be filled at 21.25 but I had to increase my price!

The speculator in me also drew me towards KenRe @ 9.10 - 9.25 and MSC @ 7.25. I am not too sure why but I can see value at these beaten down prices.

Let's wait for tomorrow and see whether we can pick up some more bargains!
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#39 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:20:31 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
Been quite a day at the races (mart). Managed to pick up KPLC @ 20, KCB @ 21.50 and a few thousand at 21.25. I had thought my order would be filled at 21.25 but I had to increase my price!

The speculator in me also drew me towards KenRe @ 9.10 - 9.25 and MSC @ 7.25. I am not too sure why but I can see value at these beaten down prices.

Let's wait for tomorrow and see whether we can pick up some more bargains!

I see you picking more tomorrow at even better prices for 2 reasons:
1) NSE falls below 4,000pts for the 1st time today in almost an year(Actually an year)
2) Being a Friday, people take to lock in their gains/losses!
I hope i'll have some pennies too!
@SufficientlyP
Kirika
#40 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:25:25 PM
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@Mwana

I think you should have delayed abit, though i know the prices are abit too enticing.

Its much better to spread one's buy orders over a period of atleast a week. Wednesday next week i make my move on KPLC and my coveted Jubilee.
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