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Rank: Member Joined: 12/11/2006 Posts: 896
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reason - instincts “Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Effective price is 23.25 less dividend 1.25 (broker fees & w/h taxes ignored). Good deal, my only debate is if it can do sub 22 when it goes ex. But I expect a very strong Q1 when the rights cash start being felt properly.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Effective price is 23.25 less dividend 1.25 (broker fees & w/h taxes ignored). Good deal, my only debate is if it can do sub 22 when it goes ex. But I expect a very strong Q1 when the rights cash start being felt properly. Since bk closer is in may, the sub 22 may not be possible coz we shall be having the Q1 results by then. I intend to sell KPLC just b4 bk closer later this month and probably add more of this LION! It will definately roar. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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Good..let's keep building consensus around KCB. I'm doing 6.2% on the Div yield n since it is going ex on the AGM date then good Q1 results n a +ve trading update from M.O.O should do us good. It better rain soon though...
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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“The market has really responded positively to the new S&L Mortgages and especially the fact that we can now do much bigger deals of more than Kshs one billion per project. This has attracted alot of interest throughout the region”, explained Kariuki. Southern Sudan, she said, currently harboured huge mortgage business potential in the second quarter of 2011 given that Sudan was keen on a socio-economic reconstruction and recovery plan. GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:“The market has really responded positively to the new S&L Mortgages and especially the fact that we can now do much bigger deals of more than Kshs one billion per project. This has attracted alot of interest throughout the region”, explained Kariuki. Southern Sudan, she said, currently harboured huge mortgage business potential in the second quarter of 2011 given that Sudan was keen on a socio-economic reconstruction and recovery plan. Thanks Cde & if I might add all other EAC countries (latest UG) are done with elections so now its all out bizna, guns blazing. P.S: I have a lot of faith in C. Kariuki, she has it to get us made...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,191 Location: nairobi
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Kcb is a politically secure stock and can weather political turmoil unlike eb.thats my view side in the eve of an election so go full blast on it. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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mlennyma wrote:Kcb is a politically secure stock and can weather political turmoil unlike eb.thats my view side in the eve of an election so go full blast on it. During PEV, Equity ngapi zilichomwa? GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/23/2010 Posts: 1,229
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:mlennyma wrote:Kcb is a politically secure stock and can weather political turmoil unlike eb.thats my view side in the eve of an election so go full blast on it. During PEV, Equity ngapi zilichomwa? ..might have been referring to the operating environment..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,191 Location: nairobi
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Dont wait for fire burning,but price burning,many would fear to get in eb during elections than kcb. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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mlennyma wrote:Dont wait for fire burning,but price burning,many would fear to get in eb during elections than kcb. Very true. But I usually feel these fears have no basis. My opinion GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Im not in kcb now, but seriously considering a comeback. So much is going well for this company. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,075
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And to think that the market values EB at approx 100B and KCB at approx 60B; yet they both reported around and about the same PAT. These valuations are a total joke!!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2010 Posts: 116
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Before you say buy buy buy KCB, note that currently KCB, NIC & SCBK are playing at same PE Ratio between 9 to 10. KCB are playing @ PE of 9.56. PAT 7.177b / Share capital 2.95b = 2.43 EPS.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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My 2 cents wrote:And to think that the market values EB at approx 100B and KCB at approx 60B; yet they both reported around and about the same PAT. These valuations are a total joke!!!!! U can say that again, buy, buy, buy KCB S&L!!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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KIRTI wrote:Before you say buy buy buy KCB, note that currently KCB, NIC & SCBK are playing at same PE Ratio between 9 to 10. KCB are playing @ PE of 9.56. PAT 7.177b / Share capital 2.95b = 2.43 EPS. please compare peers, NIC is not one at all (Tier 2 bank). Add BBK & EBL to the comparisons then come back to us with the math.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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KIRTI wrote:Before you say buy buy buy KCB, note that currently KCB, NIC & SCBK are playing at same PE Ratio between 9 to 10. KCB are playing @ PE of 9.56. PAT 7.177b / Share capital 2.95b = 2.43 EPS. KIRTI, you are wrong on this. Using Friday's prices, KCB was trading at a PE of 8.4, while NIC was at 9.6. SCBK (using the just released results) is trading at a PE of 14.8. Using 2009 results, SCBK was at an even higher PE of 16.39. I just can't see how you have arrived at your figures. KCB's dividend yield is also the highest of the 3 banks you have cited. I also echo the sentiments that NIC is not a peer of KCB due to size, dividend yield, liquidity etc. As an illustration, a purchase/sale order for 200,000 shares of NIC is enough to prevent a price drop/gain while this is puny where KCB is concerned. KCB is indeed the BUY amongst the three!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2010 Posts: 116
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KCB EPS is 2.43 & not 2.76. so PE ratio is 9.56 & not 8.4
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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KIRTI wrote:KCB EPS is 2.43 & not 2.76. so PE ratio is 9.56 & not 8.4 WRONG! I trust that you are aware of the principle of weighting when calculating the EPS for a share where the number of shares has changed during the reporting period. EPS of 2.43 is based on the entire number of shares as of Dec-31-2010 whereas the associated level of capital was only available for part of the year i.e. from the date of listing of the rights issue shares (August 2010). You need to take this into account to get the correct EPS.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,223 Location: Nairobi
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I am not so sure about KCB... cheap? Really? http://nairobilawmonthly...ntent.asp?contentId=242
Boardroom wars & tribal intrigues... http://nairobilawmonthly...ontent.asp?contentId=242Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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