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brightstar
#1 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:59:00 AM
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Guys Am sure you all have some shares especially after IPOs,spilts and bonus allocation in strange numbers like 33,66,90 etc. Now since for some reason you can only sell in multiples of 100 does anyone know how one can dispose of these sub 100 shares?
obiero
#2 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:26:00 AM
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Its not true that u cant sell odd lot shares. These sub 100 shares cn be sold but at a lower price compared to even ones. However,one cant buy odd lots in open trade. Chias

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racheal09
#3 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2009 4:43:00 PM
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.......now you know how people get f*cked in IPO's

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Kamaa
#4 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:57:00 AM
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Just place a sale order with your broker and keep renewing it until they get sold out..

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rupshi
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:47:00 AM
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I keep renewing my sell order for the sub 100 shares,but are not getting sold. It is very,very difficult
jerry
#6 Posted : Sunday, September 13, 2009 2:35:00 PM
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True. I found it v v difficult selling 12 KENGEN and 89 or so kenya-re shares but I finally succeeded. Just don't lose hope.

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mukiha
#7 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2009 6:26:00 AM
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@racheal09:- the info memoranda of all IPOs clearly state the allocation criteria. If you read the KenRe one,for example,you see that there was a possibility of odd share allocations....and eventually,many people got 333 shares; but the case of SCOM,it was made clear that allocation would be to the nearest 100 units.

Thus it is not true that people get cheated through allocation of awkward numbers of shares in IPOs.....if you don't read what you are signing up for,you can only blame yourself!!

@brightstar; if you were allocated an odd number during an IPO,you can easily sell the whole lot in the early days after the stock hits the market. The reason is that many buyers place orders in multiples of minimum allocation (e.g. 333 in KenRe).

However,after a few weeks,these odd orders dry out and many would be sellers are left with sub-100 lots in thei hands.

If you have sub-100 lots,you must decide whether to simply keep them for a long lime and wait for a split or to sell them off at a good discount,say 20% below prevailing market price.


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#8 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2009 9:37:00 AM
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My advice is for you to place a sale order at market price and as one contributor said,be prepared to sell at rock bottom. It also takes some time for the sale to go through and one should be patient.

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Eddy
#9 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2009 10:14:00 AM
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@ obiero if you can sell but not buy,where they do they take them?
Ericks
#10 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2009 10:46:00 AM
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Try placing a buy order for the difference to make it 100 or a multiple of the same e.g. if you have 333 shares and have not succeeded in selling them,place an order for 66 shares with an intention to add them up to 400. then sell the 400.... my 2 cents..

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slimshady
#11 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2009 11:52:00 AM
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am greaful for signing up.your ideas are worth reading u;ve really helped me coz am a victim

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obiero
#12 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2009 2:51:00 PM
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I ask myself the same question! Bt i guess they consolidate the odd lots 4rm many sellers to make a whole 4 one buyer!

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rugi
#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:24:00 PM
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hey guys some advice............... always place a shilling less than what it is trading at,that way they have a higher chance of being sold............. did that for kengen and kenya re shares
lovely2010
#14 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 11:29:30 AM
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I have been watching lately, there is someone who is buying odd lots @ unthinkable price...imagine buying kq odd lots today @ 36.50...I hope they know what they are doing...Its crazy....
manziwamtaa
#15 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 12:42:42 PM
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I had posted a topic on odd lots a while back, after struggling for over a year with Suntra.

However, after I registered for Suntra Online, I was able to buy the odd lots and now I'm one happy girl.
Genghis Khan
#16 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 12:49:32 PM
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Ask for a printed cert. and hang it on your office wallsmile

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jerry
#17 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 1:57:27 PM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
Ask for a printed cert. and hang it on your office wallsmile

After 10 years give it to your kid as a BDay presentsmile

=>the biggest nuisance with odd lots is the cents you get in terms of dvds. I once cashed a 19/= cheque at bbk!
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VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 4:06:47 PM
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CMA in its glorious ignorance does not allow a mechanism for firms to clean up the share register. In many other countries/stockmarkets, the firms are allowed to clean up the Register by paying market price for the odd lots.

The cost of (most) odd lots is very high to the firms! Paying out 20/- dividend costs more than 20/- per chq or even M-Pesa.
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pariah
#19 Posted : Monday, April 01, 2013 8:13:54 PM
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has anyone managed to get rid of the odd lots at NIC brokerage firm? the 17 bob cheques or 9 bob for dividends is annoying
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