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I miss good English
Ms Mkenya
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:41:09 PM
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I miss good English, written and spoken.

I see at least three mis-spellings per day, sometimes more. I see statements like:-

a) That was so first!
b) Thise (or This) things are better
c) Or someone starts a sentence with have, had 'have been told its not available'..'had checked on it'
d) Worse still 'Ave been told....
e) I 'no' her.. Meaning i know her..

And the worst bit is that it is becoming increasingly common on official correspondence, even job applications!
And i am not even talking about the L8r, nite, ttyl, pple, mayb...

Oh, i miss good English!
....above all, to stand.
ProverB
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:50:47 PM
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u culd skiza BBC fm. Am told its kizungu shikas poa. jus semaing. smile
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Ms Mkenya
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:56:15 PM
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ProverB wrote:
u culd skiza BBC fm. Am told its kizungu shikas poa. jus semaing. smile


Sad Sad Sad Sad
....above all, to stand.
kadonye
#4 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:09:33 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
ProverB wrote:
u culd skiza BBC fm. Am told its kizungu shikas poa. jus semaing. smile


Sad Sad Sad Sad

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Don't be too formal Ms Mkenya!
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grolut
#5 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:18:13 PM
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ProverB wrote:
u culd skiza BBC fm. Am told its kizungu shikas poa. jus semaing. smile


Applause Nice one.

On a serious note though, I also get tired of all the misspellings and grammatical errors in the press. What are editors and proofreaders doing?
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Ms Mkenya
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 8:06:58 PM
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grolut wrote:
ProverB wrote:
u culd skiza BBC fm. Am told its kizungu shikas poa. jus semaing. smile


Applause Nice one.

On a serious note though, I also get tired of all the misspellings and grammatical errors in the press. What are editors and proofreaders doing?

Esp the Nation!
....above all, to stand.
Kusadikika
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 8:36:06 PM
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English is an evolving language. You probably have no problem using such words as camouflage, nose dive, radar, roadblock, spearhead etc. They are proper or good english words, right? They are now, but they came into the english language after being incorporated from military slang.

This is an English text in 1384:

Oure fadir þat art in heuenes halwid be þi name;
þi reume or kyngdom come to be. Be þi wille don in herþe as it is doun in heuene.
yeue to us today oure eche dayes bred.
And foryeue to us oure dettis þat is oure synnys as we foryeuen to oure dettouris þat is to men þat han synned in us.
And lede us not into temptacion but delyuere us from euyl.

Here is the same text in English in 1611:

Our father which art in heauen, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth as it is in heauen.
Giue us this day our daily bread.
And forgiue us our debts as we forgiue our debters.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliuer us from euill. Amen.

Here is the same text in English in 2011:

Our Father who art in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

Who knows, this might be the proper english version in 2100:

Yo, Bid Daddy Upstairs,
You be chillin'
So be yo hood
You be sayin' it; I be doin' it
In dis hood and in Yo's
Gimme some eats
And cut me some slack
So's I be doin' it to dem dat diss me
Don't be pushin' me into no jive
And keep dem Crips away
Cuz you always be da Man
Skraight up.

http://www.anglik.net/englishlanguagehistory.htm



muganda
#8 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:04:37 PM
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@Ms Mkenya, I hear you. Perhaps you can take this a step further...

I came across a book on Correct English, and another forum on the same. Maybe you can begin another thread where we exchange common grammatical and syntax pointers, learn new words, you know... (all the boring stuff smile )

Jacy26
#9 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 10:19:41 AM
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Quote:
Yo, Bid Daddy Upstairs,
You be chillin'
So be yo hood
You be sayin' it; I be doin' it
In dis hood and in Yo's
Gimme some eats
And cut me some slack
So's I be doin' it to dem dat diss me
Don't be pushin' me into no jive
And keep dem Crips away
Cuz you always be da Man
Skraight up.


I love that year 2100 prayer.smile
If you have only one smile in you, give it to the people you love - Maya Angelou
bwenyenye
#10 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 10:47:40 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Who knows, this might be the proper english version in 2100:

Yo, Bid Daddy Upstairs,
You be chillin'
So be yo hood
You be sayin' it; I be doin' it
In dis hood and in Yo's
Gimme some eats
And cut me some slack
So's I be doin' it to dem dat diss me
Don't be pushin' me into no jive
And keep dem Crips away
Cuz you always be da Man
Skraight up.

http://www.anglik.net/englishlanguagehistory.htm





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That is a good one. Maybe in 2030?
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MrTyrus
#11 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 11:25:59 AM
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Year 2100 english. Noma sana

one of the reasons I like Smittas englisky is the none comformity. Why should we strictly abide to rules of a borrowed language which even the pple who call it mother tongue dont conform to to the latter.

I think the idea should be to pass the message and have fun while doing so. using english/swahili/vernacular/sheng by most kenyans on a daily basis can be tricky and it gets even harder for the programmers.

but if your job is to give good english to the readers n listeners then hakuna shortcut. We expect good english
FundamentAli
#12 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 11:37:52 AM
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@Ms Mkenya

There is no good or bad english. That is why words like buggerup are appearing in the oxford dictionary. Pidgin english and the variety spoken in India is also recognised. Aristrocats and commonners speak different variety and there are several dialects in England some of them so strong that they should be languages on their own. What you could be missing is the Queeen's English
wakagori
#13 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 11:49:31 AM
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All said and done, nothing peeves me off than a jounalist making some silly mistakes on TV/Radio. they should be the epitome of proper delivery of the language!
Njung'e
#14 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 11:49:54 AM
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@Kusadikika,

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ....That future prayer is a cracker!
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