Its a bad thing comparing Kenya the jewel of east africa with countries like Liberia, Sierra Leone, Congo e.t.c. we should take the decision of cleaning up our poop rather than transferring our case to others - our Institutions are becoming empowered. Lets put up a local mechanism with International support like Cambodia and show the world we can.

-- Every easy choice today will have its consequence tomorrow

@Simo,

We know that we had better sort this thing by ourselves. It is embarrasing that we send this thing to another person to solve it. But who can we trust to sort this political criminality in Kenya. We could not even touch the local pharmacists!!!!

Truth be told, we do NOT have the capacity to handle these hearings of PEV on Kenya.... Which is a shame to us coz Rwanda did it ( under another gov though.)

For now, Hague is the brightest hope for the Victims is the Hague.If the hague fails, nothing stops us from doing it here.

thimioni,
...don't you see how the 0-six are running scared in town????

Ask yourselve. Why is RAO,KIBZ,RUTS n UHURU so so specific as to who should be the AG n CJ? Wagala came n robbed us thousand. 92 came,n the so called youths up graded all that was done in the wagala. The same perpetrators(Kenyans) polished their art of killing,rapin n destroying property an again nothing whatsoever was done. If that was nt enough,07 came n we reharsed our prowess. We do nt need fourty two rocket scientists to tell us this. Our solution is in the ICC,n in Kenya ,if n only if we are one tribe called Kenya.

Wacheni kumutate thread yangu.

@Robinhood, let me educate you about Kenya has the highest human development index in the whole of Eastern Africa. It has the second largest economy. It has undergone a long period of peace, It is an sports giant e.t.c.
Comparing this country to the likes of sierra leone, Liberia, Sudan and Congo is the biggest insult you would do to yourself.
Remember that if a local process fails - we could still send them to the Hague!!!
Whats the worst ICC can do? It cannot hang this people if found guilty, we can!! we can place this people in stinky kenyan cells, at the ICC they will have tv, nice cells, gym time in some european jail - remember that the ICC process has not gone thru the first stage. it may not even make it to the pretrial chamber!!!

@SimonKabz
I am beginning to see some credibility in your sentiments.

Yesterday while speaking to a friend, who by dint of what they do, gets to meet many of the Diplomats working here, said to me things akin to the sentiments espoused in your thread - of course gathered from the many discussions and workshops held by the diplomats.

Last evening Jeff Koinange once again interviewed David Matsanga, an expert in conflict resolution...., and well versed in the workings of international bodies - UN and its affiliates such as ICC.

He was more radical in his dismissal of ICC and the chances it stands with the Kenyan cases!!

Ocampo may have bitten more than he could chew!!!

Make no mistake about it, I want PEV perpetrators punished, but I am afraid I lost faith in Ocampo the moment he read out the names of people he wanted to indict.

The ommisions - too grave for me!!!!

It's a messed up affair!!

@si_cheki_ovyo_ovyo you mean you are an expert in LRA and NRM conflict?

@si_cheki_ovyo_ovyo, believe me! The reason Kony is hidding in thickets and bushes is not the fear of ICC but the fear of M7. ICC has no arresting arm on its own. ICC has as much power as you grant them.
Hata M7 agrees.

Whereas David Matsanga is free to give his opinion and advice, those to whom they appear sound should check from where is he giving those opinions and advices.

The irony, B.Timer, is believing and propagating anything and everything one hears and comes across so long as it satisfies just one condition; it supports ones' current position.