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O.K for president?
Njung'e
#1 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 6:21:35 PM
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Ole Kiyiapi is definitely one of the best brains and civil servant around.I understand he is going for the Presidency.You pea thoughts pliz!
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Elder
#2 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 6:29:25 PM
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#3 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 6:33:14 PM
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i am sure that he will make a good administrator, however not all good brains make good leaders. leaders are born and not created. the current political problems are a result of bad leaders in the name of baks n rao. as to whether the guy in question will make it, i can only wait and see.
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Intelligentsia
#4 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 6:38:56 PM
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He's the PS, Edu - the dude who blew the whistle on all that rot in the ministry.

I like the train of thought kenyans are on of considering new pips away from the usual coterie of politicians who've been there for donkey years...like Marende,PLO, OK, etc

BUT, less than 20 months to the general eRections and very few Kenyans know him, and even those who do know very little....anangoja firimbi to throw his hat in the ring (okay, even despite all those civil servants rules blah blah). When will he sell himself
kadonye
#5 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:06:11 PM
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I would vote for him. But please remove Marende from this list. I would rather have Mutava and Mukhisa in it.
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Sober
#6 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 9:53:09 PM
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one should never wwaoit for people to propose him, as you all know, we have this tendency of voting for candidates who are already famous and an offer them somethng.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:55:31 AM
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I am a bit weary about pure technocrats taking up presidential positions. I would rather have a guy who has had good public admin as well as some political experiences.

I think one needs a balance of public admin excellence with the need to please people...

That then rules out "pure" politicians like UK, RAO etc and "pure" technocrats like o-K, Ndemo etc
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Njung'e
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:10:12 AM
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@Sober,
At the back,i am made to understand the dude is assembling a campaign team and funds.

@Mukiha,
Can you consider a PS cum preacher cum lecture a pure technocrat?
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kivairu
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:11:32 AM
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Having seen baks do his 'thing' and with all the hopes kenyans had in him in 2002....i have sadly come to believe formal education is highly overrated.We need to vote for a 'fundi wa chuma' or carpenters to state house.

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
Wa_ithaka
#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:28:38 AM
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kivairu wrote:
Having seen baks do his 'thing' and with all the hopes kenyans had in him in 2002....i have sadly come to believe formal education is highly overrated.We need to vote for a 'fundi wa chuma' or carpenters to state house.


Kivaura-maybe we should fundi wa mbao as well.

Seriuosly, we need to avoid either extremes. Politics is a game and we need somebody who or has experience of playing the same.
Look no further than PK/Abdakir Mohamed imho, but do either want the job and will the masinani people go for them.
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Impunity
#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:07:31 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Ole Kiyiapi is definitely one of the best brains and civil servant around.I understand he is going for the Presidency.You pea thoughts pliz!


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Burning Spear
#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:15:52 AM
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he is definately good but dont think tribal politics can help him in kenya;

Luo's will never vote for any other person when Odinga's are vying unless the odingas have advised them to do so.
Kikuyus will always want someone to protect their estates.

No pun intended....I come from one of the above tribes.
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dasany
#13 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:26:59 AM
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I think Mukhisa Kituyi would make a good President...
kadonye
#14 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:42:22 AM
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Burning Spear wrote:
he is definately good but dont think tribal politics can help him in kenya;

Luo's will never vote for any other person when Odinga's are vying unless the odingas have advised them to do so.
Kikuyus will always want someone to protect their estates.

No pun intended....I come from one of the above tribes.


I agree with your sentiments but please stop misusing the word pun!
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