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Financial year 2010 results estimates for banks
bartum
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:03:51 PM
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lets make some estimates on how they will perform.
Eq--58% growth.
Coop--60% growth
kcb--30%
dtb--103%
bbk--23%
stanchart--14%
jubilee--54%
nic--47%
hisah
#2 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:22:26 PM
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Even if the financial sector reports super results, this has already been priced in by the rejection of the NSE index at 4700pt level. Resistance in the short term is now between 4600 - 4700 zone, which happens to project a double top. The fudged inflation index is above 5% which is the CBK's upper limit, yet MPC lowered the CBR to 5.75% - quite senseless!? Global food inflation is picking up, oil inflation due to middle east civil unrest, possibility of a drought and political risks as we approach 2012 are presenting bullish barriers.

This yearly chart portrays a head and shoulders pattern which likely suggests that in coming weeks NSE will reach 4000 points if 4200 support does not hold. If 4000 support does not hold, it will be time to turn defensive and look for cheap attractive blue chip counters.
Personally I started getting uncomfortable by the lack of volume in the last quarter of 2010 as the market rallied to 4700.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
VituVingiSana
#3 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:26:12 PM
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These are HISTORICAL growth rates... As @hisah says many of these are priced in...

Now we need to look ahead... Can these banks/firms make gains in 2011 & 2012, etc... [Seeing what a bunch of idiots Kenyans were in 2008, I fear going beyond 2012...]
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Fyatu
#4 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:00:48 PM
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hisah wrote:
Even if the financial sector reports super results, this has already been priced in by the rejection of the NSE index at 4700pt level. Resistance in the short term is now between 4600 - 4700 zone, which happens to project a double top. The fudged inflation index is above 5% which is the CBK's upper limit, yet MPC lowered the CBR to 5.75% - quite senseless!? Global food inflation is picking up, oil inflation due to middle east civil unrest, possibility of a drought and political risks as we approach 2012 are presenting bullish barriers.

This yearly chart portrays a head and shoulders pattern which likely suggests that in coming weeks NSE will reach 4000 points if 4200 support does not hold. If 4000 support does not hold, it will be time to turn defensive and look for cheap attractive blue chip counters.
Personally I started getting uncomfortable by the lack of volume in the last quarter of 2010 as the market rallied to 4700.




Is this a prophecy of doom?? should we get worried??
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Cde Monomotapa
#5 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 7:47:48 AM
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Please note it is not financials contributing to NSE 20 or ALSI dropping..it is ur AKs, KQ, MSC, Scom, OCH, Sameer, Neveready e.t.c all with fluid fundamentals. For a longtime finally the NSE is reflecting merit in my view.
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#6 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 8:18:55 AM
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Cde, you're right. Some companies were (some still are) grossly overvalued.
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Cde Monomotapa
#7 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 8:30:42 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde, you're right. Some companies were (some still are) grossly overvalued.

Tell em Comrade. Some of them ought to be de-listed infact.
Wa_ithaka
#8 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 9:27:01 AM
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I think its easy to see how 3/4 of the banks will perform.
Barclays-flat than a pancake or even a drop.
StanChart-will do okay, but note T-bill rates have been heading downward so it'll have to do some proper lending
Equity-juu juu. I understand Ug subsidiary is due to break even
KCB- snooze zone
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#9 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 11:06:25 AM
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#10 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 12:34:55 PM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
I think its easy to see how 3/4 of the banks will perform.
Barclays-flat than a pancake or even a drop.
StanChart-will do okay, but note T-bill rates have been heading downward so it'll have to do some proper lending
Equity-juu juu. I understand Ug subsidiary is due to break even
KCB- snooze zone


@Wa-ithaka, I disagree with you on BBK. Its Cumulative Q3 2010 results actually showed an increase of 20.42% growth in PAT relative to Q3 2009. This compares with 28.38% for KCB and 17.03% for Stanchart. If anything Stanchart will be the laggard amongst this peer group.

KCB tends to surprise in Q4 with excess NPLs (which I guess are forced on them by their Auditors), but it it would be unusual for BBK to surprise us that way. On the other hand, BBK and DTK were the only listed banks whose profits in Q3 (Jul-Sept)were lower than those for Q2 (Apr-Jun).

In the case of DTK, it was clear that they had a particularly good Q2 which was not expected to be repeated. In that sense BBK worries me, but I am banking on the gains from the sale of the custody business to SCBK to cushion any fall in Q4 vis-a-vis the first 3 quarters.

As for Equity, I am with you. I expect an acceleration in their profits in Q4 against the 51.47% growth in cumulative Q3 PAT growth. But the mother of the big banks should be Coop as it had grown 74.76%. Makes me wonder why the D**N thing is stuck at 20!

Of course, as many here have opined the results are already built into the price. Hence, I am reckoning the only price jumps that can be expected would be in the event of higher than expected or special dividends or declaration of bonus shares.
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