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jerry
#1291 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:11:48 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
So if KPC defies a COURT ORDER...

Lawyers... what now?

@vvs; If KK finally gets the 4.6bn which seems elusive, it'll be great to us shareholders. What I'm sure of is that KK's financial results for 2010 will be better than those of 2009.
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mkonomtupu
#1292 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:23:01 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
So if KPC defies a COURT ORDER...

Lawyers... what now?


Simple the stay of execution lapses and the KK can send in auctioneers to sell the assets of KPC. There is still time before the auctioneers can move in maybe 14 days from today. Its unlikely to happen I expect the lawyers for KPC have rushed to the court of appeal to modify the requirement to deposit the cash and may be granted the option of putting a bank guarantee, which is really better even for KK coz i don't think even if you sell the assets of KPC you will be able to get that amount of cash through auction.
mlennyma
#1293 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:10:52 AM
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Kk might end up owning kpc...this is longtime money.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#1294 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:23:02 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
So if KPC defies a COURT ORDER...

Lawyers... what now?

The judiciary is still controlled by the executive, and so KPC might move to court and get a ruling favourable to them, temporarily. This looks like it will drag on for another year or two
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selah
#1295 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:35:38 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
2012 wrote:
And who is still selling at 9.80? Is there something we don't know?

market are trully irrational, they would rather buy a good share when its going up and sell when its going down. Same ppl selling now, may be the buyers at 11 plus.


In my opinion I think with the current acquisitions KK has embarked on its obvious it might impact on its profitability this financial year so in the short term I think its share price will be depressed until those operations start contributing in its balance sheet.
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2012
#1296 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:01:33 AM
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selah wrote:
In my opinion I think with the current acquisitions KK has embarked on its obvious it might impact on its profitability this financial year so in the short term I think its share price will be depressed until those operations start contributing in its balance sheet.


I don't think that will be the case, these acquisitions are already in the balance sheet as assets which raise the company value and hence the shareholder's value. I think it's just a matter of time before this is properly factored in and the upsurge begins. On this one I can gladly say that the raise is inevitable.

BBI will solve it
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stocksmaster
#1297 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:10:35 AM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So if KPC defies a COURT ORDER...

Lawyers... what now?


Simple the stay of execution lapses and the KK can send in auctioneers to sell the assets of KPC. There is still time before the auctioneers can move in maybe 14 days from today. Its unlikely to happen I expect the lawyers for KPC have rushed to the court of appeal to modify the requirement to deposit the cash and may be granted the option of putting a bank guarantee, which is really better even for KK coz i don't think even if you sell the assets of KPC you will be able to get that amount of cash through auction.


Is it a must for KK to auction the assets if they were to take over KPC? It would be wise to just form a holding company that would run KPC. But it is unlikely to get to this point.

However, it does not make sense why KPC has to wait until the last day/expiry of the court order for them to act? The court order was made on the 28th of January 2011!!

Happy hunting.
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mkonomtupu
#1298 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:56:42 AM
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@stocksmaster, Actually what the court stopped on 28th Jan was the auctioning of KPC assets on condition they paid the 4.6b into a joint account within 14 days from 28th January. Since KPC cannot fulfill that condition then the orders lapse and KK is at liberty to proceed and seize and auction the assets.

That is the only way you auction the assets and seize the bank accounts.This is what KK lawyers meant by saying “We are instructed to notify your client, which we hereby do, of our client’s intention to effect execution promptly on expiration of the said period of 14 days, if the full amount will not have been deposited in accordance with the orders of the High Court.”

If we had chapter 11 this is the time you file for protection to reorganize. The only way KPC can get out is to get a senior lawyer to have the court of appeal hear them urgently.Obviously expect a fuel shortgage if KPC assets are auctioned. I don't think gova would allow this.

VituVingiSana
#1299 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:17:42 PM
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@mkonomtupu - I disagree with "Obviously expect a fuel shortgage if KPC assets are auctioned."

IMHO, KK can run the pipeline [even with the EXISTING employees] much better than KPC. Once KK installs its own people... the pipeline throughput would be up a minimum 20-30% within 12-18 months!

In the short-term there may be disruptions but the OMCs will come together to sort it out! Better than GoK, MoE or KPC...
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jerry
#1300 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:55:26 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@mkonomtupu - I disagree with "Obviously expect a fuel shortgage if KPC assets are auctioned."

IMHO, KK can run the pipeline [even with the EXISTING employees] much better than KPC. Once KK installs its own people... the pipeline throughput would be up a minimum 20-30% within 12-18 months!

In the short-term there may be disruptions but the OMCs will come together to sort it out! Better than GoK, MoE or KPC...

Methinks the best option is to enjoin KK inthe ownership of KPC and let KK manage KPC until they(KK) recover their 4.6B. If the order is to auction, both KK and KPC will lose out. KPC will lose more than KK and KK cannot bid in the auction.
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