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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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I was going to invest on this counter then some questions came into my mind why is the EPS 5.87 while we know the No. of share is above 1.9 billion how long does it take for the new shares to reflect in the earnings of the company. Because if we were to look at the current EPS it would be around ksh 2 making its P/E @ 12 as opposed to 4 presently. E & O.E '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/29/2007 Posts: 70
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This was a simple calculation error which arose at the time of the share split, the calculation failed to take account of the split. It should not worry you, you can calculate the correct P/E.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,011 Location: nairobi
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who is doing the research for you? Do your own, dont also rely on kenyan paperd
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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bartum wrote:who is doing the research for you? Do your own, dont also rely on kenyan paperd I agree with you,I have been waiting for wazua and other reference sites to change it but they still reflects the old No.s. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/9/2010 Posts: 894 Location: Nairobi
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Even if the P/E is 12, i am still bullish about this counter Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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selah wrote:bartum wrote:who is doing the research for you? Do your own, dont also rely on kenyan paperd I agree with you,I have been waiting for wazua and other reference sites to change it but they still reflects the old No.s. @Selah;As they say, always do your own research and don't let little obstacles destract you from the main visionline. KPLC is a big BUY at current prices. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Even wazua 'the authority, award winning, most preferred discussion forum by Kenyan investors on investments' is not up to date on KPLC.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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2012 wrote:Even wazua 'the authority, award winning, most preferred discussion forum by Kenyan investors on investment' is not up to date on KPLC. @2012; the problem could be at NSE or KPLC itself. Have you tried KPLC site! The latest fuel adjustments(&fx adjustments) you get there are for Sep 2009!!! The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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jerry wrote:
@2012; the problem could be at NSE or KPLC itself. Have you tried KPLC site! The latest fuel adjustments(&fx adjustments) you get there are for Sep 2009!!!
This is about you and your investment, why refer elsewhere for what should be on your fingertips if it's really that important?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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i just sold at 23-24 region all my rights. am waiting for a dip to 20.00 and hop in full swing, i just hope the don't release their results before then because i am sure they gonna be appealing. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Sober wrote:i just sold at 23-24 region all my rights. am waiting for a dip to 20.00 and hop in full swing, i just hope the don't release their results before then because i am sure they gonna be appealing. @sober. Their fin-yr ends in June. Are they likely to give interim dividends given the increase in shares after rights issued? The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 514 Location: Nairobi
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selah wrote:I was going to invest on this counter then some questions came into my mind why is the EPS 5.87 while we know the No. of share is above 1.9 billion how long does it take for the new shares to reflect in the earnings of the company. Because if we were to look at the current EPS it would be around ksh 2 making its P/E @ 12 as opposed to 4 presently.
E & O.E True if you do a quick calculation the EPS will come to around 2.14 but what you should remember is the true meaning of DILUTED & BASIC EPS. An ordinary shareholder is supposed to enjoy and participate in the profits of a company but only from the point he/she joined thus all shares cannot be rated equally in terms of EPS and that's why you'll find that when going through most financial statements that have undergone a rights or bonus issue, you'll always find 2 EPS' i.e. a basic and a diluted EPS. This is why it is always advisable to exercise your rights coz not all shares enjoy the previous period's income at the same level. Thus you should ensure you know the EPS you are quoting as to whether its diluted or not! 'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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jerry wrote:@sober. Their fin-yr ends in June. Are they likely to give interim dividends given the increase in shares after rights issued? I don't see them issuing interim as it's gonna cost them quite a bit. That said, well done @sober, I think you sold at the right time and I hope for your sake the current tide favours you.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,215 Location: Nairobi
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No point in announcing an Interim for a 'small' amount though they might do it since it has been done in the past... IMHO, there should be no Interim Dividend to cut/reduce costs of sending so many dividend cheques/EFTs... Kenya/CMA/NSE needs to introduce DRIPs to help firms 'retain' dividends as Capital while cutting re-investment costs for shareholders... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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VituVingiSana wrote:No point in announcing an Interim for a 'small' amount though they might do it since it has been done in the past...
IMHO, there should be no Interim Dividend to cut/reduce costs of sending so many dividend cheques/EFTs...
Kenya/CMA/NSE needs to introduce DRIPs to help firms 'retain' dividends as Capital while cutting re-investment costs for shareholders... @Vvs. I concur. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:No point in announcing an Interim for a 'small' amount though they might do it since it has been done in the past...
there will be an interim dividend of 30-40cents Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:there will be an interim dividend of 30-40cents Assumption or fact?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:guru267 wrote:there will be an interim dividend of 30-40cents Assumption or fact? An educated and informed assumption Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:2012 wrote:guru267 wrote:there will be an interim dividend of 30-40cents Assumption or fact? informed assumption Informed by?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,215 Location: Nairobi
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Coz KPLC has had interim dividends in the immediate past, they may do so this year but I think they should kaa square & give one at Year End... Saves ma-millions! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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