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erifloss
#1221 Posted : Friday, January 21, 2011 1:03:24 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@erifloss - I do not know how 'old' the stations were. biwott 'dropped' out of power 9 years [2002] ago so that might be a good indicator. How did KK get such traction in Central [considering the anti-moi/biwott streak there?]...

BTW, I got into KK after 2002 as a shareholder in Kenol [Kobil came later]

Those days most people never knew who owned what as most of the info out there were perceived as mere rumours. Biwott was and still is an astute businessman, he also made use of his son in law as a front in most of his businesses.
I think Kenya being the largest economy around these sides, Kk should also look for a way to maintain and expand in this market coz more people are buying vehicles in Kenya than any other place within the Region. Kenya is fast becoming the business hub its supposed to be and they should take this advantage being an indigenous company and this is why i beieve the post of chairman & CEO should be held by different people. A company's influence in Kenya might follow it wherever it goes!
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Gordon Gekko
#1222 Posted : Friday, January 21, 2011 1:34:50 PM
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erifloss wrote:
Biwott was and still is an astute businessman,

If he is such an astute businessman, how come he has never completed the second tower at Yaya Centre, which is an eyesore sitting on prime property?

BTW, what is KK doing about GOSS? With independence that could be a route to operate upstream??
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#1223 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:11:53 PM
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Kenolkobil acquires phoenix petroleum Uganda assets.

http://www.rich.co.ke/me...Uganda%20Acquisition.pdf
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VituVingiSana
#1224 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:51:40 PM
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@GG - No need to build massive infrastructure in ROSS [Republic of South Sudan] until the government stabilizes BUT I hope KK has the ability to supply ROSS as a wholesaler.

BTW, if you invest in ROSS you need a local partner... many of whom are simply cronies/connected to politicians... Shades of Kenya!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#1225 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:13:36 PM
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selah wrote:
Kenolkobil acquires phoenix petroleum Uganda assets.


That's the kind of news you want to hear when you're a shareholder of a company. I hope this will propel it to 11/- niuze kitu

BBI will solve it :)
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VituVingiSana
#1226 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:41:45 PM
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2012 wrote:
selah wrote:
Kenolkobil acquires phoenix petroleum Uganda assets.

That's the kind of news you want to hear when you're a shareholder of a company. I hope this will propel it to 11/- niuze kitu
Sell at 11/-? Rather unambitious... Shame on you
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#1227 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:50:51 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
2012 wrote:
selah wrote:
Kenolkobil acquires phoenix petroleum Uganda assets.

That's the kind of news you want to hear when you're a shareholder of a company. I hope this will propel it to 11/- niuze kitu
Sell at 11/-? Rather unambitious... Shame on you


I got it at an average of 9.2 I'm ready to settle for 20% on this one plus it currently constitutes of 52% of my portfolio which is not wise at all.

BBI will solve it :)
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guru267
#1228 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:57:39 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
2012 wrote:

That's the kind of news you want to hear when you're a shareholder of a company. I hope this will propel it to 11/- niuze kitu
Sell at 11/-? Rather unambitious... Shame on you


Its like the guys selling KPLC now to me and the others... Then we will be selling back to them when the thing hits over 40 in two years...

@2012 I must say you really have balls to have 52% of your portfolio in KK.. I dont know if I should be impressed or worried??

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VituVingiSana
#1229 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:46:12 PM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
2012 wrote:

That's the kind of news you want to hear when you're a shareholder of a company. I hope this will propel it to 11/- niuze kitu
Sell at 11/-? Rather unambitious... Shame on you


Its like the guys selling KPLC now to me and the others... Then we will be selling back to them when the thing hits over 40 in two years...

@2012 I must say you really have balls to have 52% of your portfolio in KK.. I dont know if I should be impressed or worried??
Well, selling off some with 20% gain will drop the portfolio % to less than 50%...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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mjuaji wa stocks
#1230 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:08:27 AM
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[quote=selah]Kenolkobil acquires phoenix petroleum Uganda assets.

http://www.rich.co.ke/me...ganda%20Acquisition.pdf[/quote]


Very good news .... na bado!! been buying ..... buying more ...... plz guys sell to me!! smile smile
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VituVingiSana
#1231 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:30:00 AM
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Pheonix is a small purchase for KK but the Tank/Storage facility near Jinja is key for expansion into East Uganda...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#1232 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:59:57 AM
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guru267 wrote:
@2012 I must say you really have balls to have 52% of your portfolio in KK.. I dont know if I should be impressed or worried??


Worried! It's not a good position to be in. Every time I bought into another counter I always somehowly topped up with KK until it has now reached this worrying stage.

BBI will solve it :)
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VituVingiSana
#1233 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:32:20 AM
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2012 wrote:
guru267 wrote:
@2012 I must say you really have balls to have 52% of your portfolio in KK.. I dont know if I should be impressed or worried??


Worried! It's not a good position to be in. Every time I bought into another counter I always somehowly topped up with KK until it has now reached this worrying stage.
Chief... Be like Warren Buffett... buy if it looks good!

Chances are I bought some of your KK... [if you sold]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#1234 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:32:19 AM
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Whats are the risks of holding so much of kk? I like the company and think they have very bright future and growth prospects.
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#1235 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:14:34 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Whats are the risks of holding so much of kk?


Two things, the unknown and the unexpected.

BBI will solve it :)
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jerry
#1236 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:25:57 PM
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2012 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Whats are the risks of holding so much of kk?


Two things, the unknown and the unexpected.

@2012. en what r the benefits/advantages? I've 45% in my portfolio at break even of 10/55.
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#1237 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 6:31:32 PM
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jerry wrote:
2012 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Whats are the risks of holding so much of kk?


Two things, the unknown and the unexpected.

@2012. en what r the benefits/advantages? I've 45% in my portfolio at break even of 10/55.


Currently everything seems to favour this counter and it's just a matter of time before the winds start blowing its sails northwards. I just have too many eggs in this basket and need to reduce. I think 45% is good though if you have not put too much money.

BBI will solve it :)
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erifloss
#1238 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:14:02 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
company and think they have very bright future and growth prospects.
I do believe that they do have good prospects too though i do think its time they put new wine in the old wine skin in terms of management coz it seems their is monopoly of direction in that perspective.
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jerry
#1239 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:28:54 PM
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@2012, @erifloss. Thanks. With all the acquisitions I think kk may not give dividends for 2010. What do you think?
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VituVingiSana
#1240 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:10:40 PM
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I am happy with KK's management... Smart & feisty... Only ones who took on GoK [KPC, MoE, KPRL]...

Maybe a little too much to chew at one time but crap happens!

IMHO, they will benefit the most from the deals they cut with MoE, KPC & KPRL...
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