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Mututho got it all wrong!
bird_man
#31 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:11:36 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
The way i see it, IMHO, Mututho got it all wrong because rather than addressing the pressing issue of youth unemployment this law assumes rather fallaciously that by regulating drinking hours, then "idle drinker" would spend their idle time in economic activities. Its all over the counties, hundreds of youths have nothing to do so they end up in alcohol dens.


Unemployed and they have refused to dig shambas or pick coffee?Has any started a project and asked for funding (even from a relative) na akanyimwa?God & the government help those who help themselves.
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
bwenyenye
#32 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:24:13 PM
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I tend to agree with the birdman. Most of these guys, even in Nairobi by the way, do not drink coz they have nothing to do. They do it coz they have too much money in their pockets and human ATMs and absolutely no brain power left. Whenever you meet these guys, they have no issues in asking you for a 'ka- fifty' and gues what, we in turn have no qualms giving them. However, when the guy asks youfor a K to plant something in his kashamba we refuse and say that is too much. Ataenda kunywa tu. So he begs you what he knows he can get and does what you expect him to do. My arguement is that these guys take to drinking due to a total loss of hope and self respect. We perpetuate it. Nowadays, if they come, I first give them a job then pay them for it. I do not think there is much you can do for someone who does not want to think or work really.

So will the mututho bill help, Yes but not those guys. It will help those with brains to invest their savings.
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TAZ
#33 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:58:31 PM
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bwenyenye wrote:
I tend to agree with the birdman. Most of these guys, even in Nairobi by the way, do not drink coz they have nothing to do. They do it coz they have too much money in their pockets and human ATMs and absolutely no brain power left. Whenever you meet these guys, they have no issues in asking you for a 'ka- fifty' and gues what, we in turn have no qualms giving them. However, when the guy asks youfor a K to plant something in his kashamba we refuse and say that is too much. Ataenda kunywa tu. So he begs you what he knows he can get and does what you expect him to do. My arguement is that these guys take to drinking due to a total loss of hope and self respect. We perpetuate it. Nowadays, if they come, I first give them a job then pay them for it. I do not think there is much you can do for someone who does not want to think or work really.

So will the mututho bill help, Yes but not those guys. It will help those with brains to invest their savings.


Hapo enyewe umenena.....If these so called Alcoholics drink because they have nothing to do kwani where do they get the money to drink.
YesuWangu
#34 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:58:42 PM
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bwenyenye wrote:
I tend to agree with the birdman. Most of these guys, even in Nairobi by the way, do not drink coz they have nothing to do. They do it coz they have too much money in their pockets and human ATMs and absolutely no brain power left. Whenever you meet these guys, they have no issues in asking you for a 'ka- fifty' and gues what, we in turn have no qualms giving them. However, when the guy asks youfor a K to plant something in his kashamba we refuse and say that is too much. Ataenda kunywa tu. So he begs you what he knows he can get and does what you expect him to do. My arguement is that these guys take to drinking due to a total loss of hope and self respect. We perpetuate it. Nowadays, if they come, I first give them a job then pay them for it. I do not think there is much you can do for someone who does not want to think or work really.

So will the mututho bill help, Yes but not those guys. It will help those with brains to invest their savings.


Hii watu wa siku hizi coupled with the training, or whatever education they had......we dont teach and train our children well in school and at home then we get or act surprised when they turn out to be bums when out of school....there is a lot of input required to make one be a drunkard. Available cash is just one of many.

It will take a lot more input to rectify the situation, a law is just one of many. It is not the silver bullet. Neither the magic wand.
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