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The entire church system is a wicked deception that exists without God
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NaiCity
#1 Posted : Monday, January 10, 2011 12:08:01 AM
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The entire church system is a wicked deception that exists without God. Church has no connection whatsoever with God or eternal destiny. It is entirely self centered and aimed at gain for the church operators. Church exists totally separate from God, it is in fact opposed to God.

Deception of Church
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Pastor M
#2 Posted : Monday, January 10, 2011 8:54:12 AM
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I like this part....

If you want to spend eternity in the presence of God in heaven you need to get to know Jesus now, before it is too late. Once you die you face judgment. If you did not get to know Jesus in this life, you will spend eternity away from Him as well.



Seek Jesus now, before it is for ever too late. Don’t go to church, go to Jesus!
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mjuaji wa stocks
#3 Posted : Monday, January 10, 2011 10:13:27 AM
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Pastor M wrote:
I like this part....

If you want to spend eternity in the presence of God in heaven you need to get to know Jesus now, before it is too late. Once you die you face judgment. If you did not get to know Jesus in this life, you will spend eternity away from Him as well.



Seek Jesus now, before it is for ever too late. Don’t go to church, go to Jesus!



I like it too!!!!

Wa wa wa wa....you know what there is no excuse that God will accept for having not repented of your sins and turned to God...through Jesus Christ!!
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God has made Himself known to us all.....not neccesarily through other christians but even through His handiwork.....so whether men believe it or not.....the truth every man will give an account of Himself to God....THAT DAY!!Applause
God gave me the power to make wealth ... Blessed the work of my hands & enabled be A SELF MADE BILLIONAIRE ...... TO GOD THE FATHER OF MY LORD JESUS CHRIST; BE THE GLORY NOW & FOREVER MORE!
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Ms Mkenya
#4 Posted : Monday, January 10, 2011 10:51:16 AM
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Pastor M wrote:
I like this part....

If you want to spend eternity in the presence of God in heaven you need to get to know Jesus now, before it is too late. Once you die you face judgment. If you did not get to know Jesus in this life, you will spend eternity away from Him as well.



Seek Jesus now, before it is for ever too late. Don’t go to church, go to Jesus!


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause i agree with Pastor. And Church is in our hearts..
....above all, to stand.
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QD
#5 Posted : Monday, January 10, 2011 12:50:16 PM
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@ NaiCity elaborate on the churches you mean in this thread coz i think the mainstream churches are not wicked but may be misguided en God do exist.Jesus says "seek Ye the Kingdom of God first and every thing else will be added unto you". coz we can read the holly Bible, its the commandment from God that we should follow and not mortals as us in the name of Pastors, decons etc.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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selah
#6 Posted : Monday, January 10, 2011 1:31:09 PM
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I think many people dont understand what church is. when you talk of a system then thats not a church.A Church is the body of Christ with Jesus as its head and Christians are supposed to be parts of that body that work according to the wishes of the head in oneness.

If you read the book of revelation chapter 2-3 a specimen of 7 churches is drawn and Jesus highlights failures and successes of these churches. if you read properly you will see those seven churches reflect the seven stages of a church how its supposed to be conducted as well as area which might impact negatively in fostering good relation with Christ.

The teachings of Nicolatians(this is where the church is led by a clique of individuals while majority of the church members are just spectators thereby few pple exercise their spirit to the expense of others), Balaam(this is where the church tries to make money using the gospel) and Jezebel (this is where the church tends to side with the establishment or Govts or any corrupt establishment.) are greatly condemned
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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kadonye
#7 Posted : Monday, January 10, 2011 3:49:23 PM
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@selahApplause Applause Applause Applause

We forget that we, the followers of Jesus the Christ are the church(the bride of Christ) and despite her many failings, Christ still loves his bride

But I do agree that sometimes too much church activity makes people think they're close to God when they aren't.
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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NaiCity
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:41:47 AM
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NaiCity wrote:
The entire church system is a wicked deception that exists without God. Church has no connection whatsoever with God or eternal destiny. It is entirely self centered and aimed at gain for the church operators. Church exists totally separate from God, it is in fact opposed to God.

Deception of Church


Where Does Your Church fall?

Is it really the Body of Christ?

Are you one of those busy running from Church to Church looking for the best Pastor?
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selah
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:10:54 PM
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NaiCity wrote:

Where Does Your Church fall?

Is it really the Body of Christ?

Are you one of those busy running from Church to Church looking for the best Pastor?


I think the best question would be are you busy looking for knowledge or life....Because the word of God is life and therefore living ....It is supposed to make an impact in your life such that it brings you closer to God....The bible says knowledge brings death while the spirit which is the word of God brings life.

Just as in john 6:63 says 'The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.'
or in 2 Corinthians 3:6 'He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

so we are all ministers of the gospel, thats why the veil was removed so that every person can serve Jesus as our high priest..just like in

Romans 7:6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.


'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Mo
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:49:37 PM
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someone shout blasphemy! while i have disgreed with the church Leadership at som points, i still do find it inevitable for the church to model my spiritual side. It all boils down to who is counselling you on spiritual matters...beware for there are many wolves in sheep skin but please DONOT stereotype the whole church!
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
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