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Rank: Member Joined: 11/10/2010 Posts: 281 Location: Nairobi
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This is a very helpful thread. Thanks to all who have made positive contributions.
Can any of you shed light on the issue of dealing with the council. Do you do that yourself or do you have the architect/foreman etc assist with that ?
Also can anyone recommend an honest surveyor.
Thanks
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/7/2010 Posts: 130
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I have asked my architect to check with NCC regarding the fees payable for them to approve the building plan and i can't believe what i am hearing!!
Inspection fees - 5,200
Occupation certificate - 7,000
Infrastructure fees - 6,390
Site board - 17,000 (payable annually as long as i am contructing!)
Drawings Linen copy 1,500
Roads Section Fee - 20,000
The total is ridiculous......Effing thieves!
Is anyone familiar with this? Are these newly introduced fees or what?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Posts: 175
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Injere wrote:I have asked my architect to check with NCC regarding the fees payable for them to approve the building plan and i can't believe what i am hearing!!
Inspection fees - 5,200
Occupation certificate - 7,000
Infrastructure fees - 6,390
Site board - 17,000 (payable annually as long as i am contructing!)
Drawings Linen copy 1,500
Roads Section Fee - 20,000
The total is ridiculous......Effing thieves!
Is anyone familiar with this? Are these newly introduced fees or what? yes all those charges are levied though apart from the site board fees the others will vary based on the size of the project and location. In some projects the road section fees is not there at all.(Dont ask me which ones I dont know how thet decide). the linen copy is a direct expenses by the developer, But yes approvals are a bit expensive these days Some you win some you lose
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/7/2010 Posts: 130
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Thanks! This is day light robbery! We have never seen roads where i want to construct let alone street lighting.... and these #%$% are charging for everything and they never even ever show up on the site to review!
How absurd!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Posts: 175
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/13/2007 Posts: 14
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Dear Wazua,
Anyone knows where I can get steel y12, y10,y8 and r8 at a good rate?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2008 Posts: 288
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hugumadede wrote:Dear Wazua,
Anyone knows where I can get steel y12, y10,y8 and r8 at a good rate?
Try Aberdare hardware located in Kariobangi Light industries; near outering rd - Juja rd roundabout. I found their prices the most competitive and they offer free transport as long as it is within nairobi. They specializes in steel and they only sell genuine ones
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 1,491 Location: Nairobi
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This is a very informative and resourceful thread keep it up @Architect Kenya ni yetu sisi sote
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/25/2010 Posts: 415
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@kenyanengineer and @pablo, very very insightful info..thanks for sharing..this is why i love wazua.. It's not hard to make decisions when you know what your values are.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/5/2010 Posts: 273 Location: NBI
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1)how economical feasible, is it to construct stone single rooms for rental in rongai town about 4km from the main road, with the hope that one day they will be demolished and a flat constructed inplace...& how can i save costs since i hope to demolish them at some point in time.
2)What's the ideal size for a single room?
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 190
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wasee wrote:1)how economical feasible, is it to construct stone single rooms for rental in rongai town about 4km from the main road, with the hope that one day they will be demolished and a flat constructed inplace...& how can i save costs since i hope to demolish them at some point in time.
2)What's the ideal size for a single room? A standard room for rentals are usually 10 x 12 feet and on a 100 x 100 plot u can comfortably have 3 "u"shaped rows each with 15 rooms and an ablution. total cost would range from 1.6 - 1.8 million. The plot size id 100 x 36 feet, with a corridor between the two rows spanning 12 feet. roof is a single pitch on each row. the plot accommodates 2 toilets and 2 shower rooms. Dont know how much they charge per room in rongai .Now its up to you to know the payback period of your investment and when you plan to demolish the structures.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 297 Location: Nairobi
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- Factor in county council approval of your plans they are very strict of late and water & electricity connection fees,
-IMO & experience you can fit 60-80 units with 6ft corridors
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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V useful information. I have a couple of questions to anybody that has had experiencing of installing solar power for water heating and lighting purposes when building their house. What is the cost installing these two for a 4-bedroom house? Which is most price/quality sensitive company to source the equipment from? Does the company also do installation? thanks, Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 359
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I have some land in shags where I do not spend much time but when I do I thoroughly find peace,quiet, complete relaxation and also see loved relatives. I think it is time to thinking of putting up a small house there. I have a small rural bachelor pad that I built soon after secondary sch. Since I don't live there, I think the house should be very meaningful and absolutely unconventional architecturally since it is the only place where I am closest to nature, family and ancestors. speaking...sort of like a statement. Idea one.. am toying with is to use irregular granite stones available on the land for free except labour costs. I have never seen any hse from these in the area.. they use mud bricks, mud or the usual cut lime stone. But I have seen such houses in Mombasa, Malindi esp tourist resorts and KWS buildings in the parks. These are beautiful and naturally earthly. Qn;.. is it that there are no fundis who know how to join even stonewalls from irregular natural stone or why are these not common even in areas with rocks lying on the surface? Idea 2. cob cottage with thatch http://www.google.co.uk/...amp;biw=984&bih=618
seen pic?.. everyone is finding the cost of building too much..and yet everyone wants to build using modern material that are expensive... so my second idea, is one which architects don't like coz the cheaper the lower their fee.A Cob house. Yes, nyumba ya matope kwanza ya ghorofa...lol..with elec and plumbing... I have seen very beautiful cob houses in UK and cannot understand why we abandoned matope rather than improve on them even for the middle-class...they are green, eco-friendly and cheap...this would be quite a statement!! Qn 2...but where can one find fundis who make such splendid cob houses with plumbing n elec in Kenya? That would be quite special!!!!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/3/2010 Posts: 96
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slykat wrote:I have some land in shags where I do not spend much time but when I do I thoroughly find peace,quiet, complete relaxation and also see loved relatives. I think it is time to thinking of putting up a small house there. I have a small rural bachelor pad that I built soon after secondary sch. Since I don't live there, I think the house should be very meaningful and absolutely unconventional architecturally since it is the only place where I am closest to nature, family and ancestors. speaking...sort of like a statement. Idea one.. am toying with is to use irregular granite stones available on the land for free except labour costs. I have never seen any hse from these in the area.. they use mud bricks, mud or the usual cut lime stone. But I have seen such houses in Mombasa, Malindi esp tourist resorts and KWS buildings in the parks. These are beautiful and naturally earthly. Qn;.. is it that there are no fundis who know how to join even stonewalls from irregular natural stone or why are these not common even in areas with rocks lying on the surface? Idea 2. cob cottage with thatch http://www.google.co.uk/...amp;biw=984&bih=618
seen pic?.. everyone is finding the cost of building too much..and yet everyone wants to build using modern material that are expensive... so my second idea, is one which architects don't like coz the cheaper the lower their fee.A Cob house. Yes, nyumba ya matope kwanza ya ghorofa...lol..with elec and plumbing... I have seen very beautiful cob houses in UK and cannot understand why we abandoned matope rather than improve on them even for the middle-class...they are green, eco-friendly and cheap...this would be quite a statement!! Qn 2...but where can one find fundis who make such splendid cob houses with plumbing n elec in Kenya? That would be quite special!!!! wow, would like a cob house...if you ever make progress on this...kindly share...
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/9/2011 Posts: 730 Location: Nairobi
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thanks alot all contributors for this thread, i am so encouraged to building my house within the next year now. our goals are best achieved indirectly
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/1/2011 Posts: 47 Location: Nairobi
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slykat wrote:I have some land in shags where I do not spend much time but when I do I thoroughly find peace,quiet, complete relaxation and also see loved relatives. I think it is time to thinking of putting up a small house there. I have a small rural bachelor pad that I built soon after secondary sch. Since I don't live there, I think the house should be very meaningful and absolutely unconventional architecturally since it is the only place where I am closest to nature, family and ancestors. speaking...sort of like a statement. Idea one.. am toying with is to use irregular granite stones available on the land for free except labour costs. I have never seen any hse from these in the area.. they use mud bricks, mud or the usual cut lime stone. But I have seen such houses in Mombasa, Malindi esp tourist resorts and KWS buildings in the parks. These are beautiful and naturally earthly. Qn;.. is it that there are no fundis who know how to join even stonewalls from irregular natural stone or why are these not common even in areas with rocks lying on the surface? Idea 2. cob cottage with thatch http://www.google.co.uk/...amp;biw=984&bih=618
seen pic?.. everyone is finding the cost of building too much..and yet everyone wants to build using modern material that are expensive... so my second idea, is one which architects don't like coz the cheaper the lower their fee.A Cob house. Yes, nyumba ya matope kwanza ya ghorofa...lol..with elec and plumbing... I have seen very beautiful cob houses in UK and cannot understand why we abandoned matope rather than improve on them even for the middle-class...they are green, eco-friendly and cheap...this would be quite a statement!! Qn 2...but where can one find fundis who make such splendid cob houses with plumbing n elec in Kenya? That would be quite special!!!!  for thinking outside the box. the cob house is so pretty. closest i've seen in Kenya is blocks made using matope. u can get the block making machine from Makiga Engineering in industrial area and get someone to do it. its really cool. the machine produces blocks with interlocking grooves so mortar to join the blocks ni kidogo n the bldg is quite stable. can do a storeyed house with some adjustments on the slab. I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else. ~Winston Churchill
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...aspx?g=posts&t=6075
I suggest it should be moved to property and should be a sticky post ! @wazua and @Wazuarians, what is your take on this ? Reason? It is the most valuable property thread. It shows the ABC how to construct a house at a minimal cost. The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@ young: i concur.. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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@Pablo, uko wapi? Wazuans please give your suggestions here:
1. Any clue on cost of painting per unit ft or square meter? What about paint types? Silk, supafast, vinyl, undercoat etc?
2. Cost of doing tiles per square meter for both walls and floor.
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