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McReggae
#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:54:35 PM
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Paul Kukubo wrote:
It is around 5.00 pm and you are waiting to catch your matatu home or you are walking out of a supermarket and a smartly dressed person approaches you.

With a phone in the hand and says he/she is stranded and cannot find an open M-pesa point anywhere nearby and wants some money urgently. He/she requests that you give him/her maybe 2000/= or more and is willing to send you the money on your M-pesa account. You sympathetically accept but insist that he/she sends the money to your account first. He /she sends you the money plus maybe 500/= as a token of appreciation for going out of your way to assist.

The transaction is done and you check your phone balance and see the money has actually been sent. You give out the money and the ‘gentleman/lady’ thanks you and walks away or even drives away as he/she may be driving!

Immediately the person disappears, you receive a message on your phone! You scroll to check the message and you find it has come from M-pesa and says the M-pesa transaction done just a few minutes ago has been cancelled/reversed!!. Your balance is as was before the latest transaction! And you have already given out the 2000/=. You try desperately to get the person but it is too late.

He/she is gone. The person craftily cancelled the transaction by calling M-pesa hot-line and claiming that he/she erroneously sent some money to a wrong number! And the transaction is legally cancelled. You have been conned!!
You are left with no proof that someone has taken your money!!.


A fallacy doing the rounds, cant happen, Mpesa transaction cancellation takes 48hrs to be effected!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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mzeekijana
#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:18:02 PM
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@ Kukubo na hiyo story ulitoa wapiii?? Unafkiri MPesa ni mafala...If this is possible MPesa would be closed by now...Unacheza na wajanjaSad
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Jus Blazin
#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:11:03 PM
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wewe ni Kukubo kabisa. For every Mpesa transaction reversed, the recipient is always called to confirm whether the transaction was erroneous or not. The reversal message you receive is to inform you that the sender has called to request for the funds to be reversed. But bado utapigiwa simu.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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selah
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:31:41 AM
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Even if you are informed of the reversal still you will hav lost your money furthermore once the guy reports it the money is locked you cant even withdraw it and after about 48hrs it is transfered back to the owner.

@Kukubo I hav always thot of that loophole but I didnt know pple were making a living out of it.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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McReggae
#15 Posted : Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:50:43 AM
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selah wrote:
Even if you are informed of the reversal still you will hav lost your money furthermore once the guy reports it the money is locked you cant even withdraw it and after about 48hrs it is transfered back to the owner.

@Kukubo I hav always thot of that loophole but I didnt know pple were making a living out of it.


Hey Selah, the money is only returned once the truth is ascertained, you and Kukubo are definitely arguing from a point of ignorance!!!!!!!Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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livie
#16 Posted : Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:18:20 PM
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@McReggae is right, if there's a dispute non of them has access to the money until safcom is satisfied of proof of the nature of the transaction even if it means going to their offices, so its not easy to use this scam and get away with it.
If you are going to be thinking only one thing, you might as well be thinking big. -Donald J . Trump
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selah
#17 Posted : Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:36:16 PM
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@mcreggae & livie how do you prove that you gave the guy the cash without a witness or copy of ID....What if the guy denies ever meeting you what will you base ur argument on.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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mozenrat
#18 Posted : Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:08:59 PM
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selah wrote:
@mcreggae & livie how do you prove that you gave the guy the cash without a witness or copy of ID....What if the guy denies ever meeting you what will you base ur argument on.


Safaricom even summons both of you to their offices if there is a dispute and will call in the police if there is suspicion of fraud.. Surely, do you see that conman honouring the summons esp. if he has a record.. Pesa yako utapata..
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McReggae
#19 Posted : Friday, January 07, 2011 8:48:23 AM
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mozenrat wrote:
selah wrote:
@mcreggae & livie how do you prove that you gave the guy the cash without a witness or copy of ID....What if the guy denies ever meeting you what will you base ur argument on.


Safaricom even summons both of you to their offices if there is a dispute and will call in the police if there is suspicion of fraud.. Surely, do you see that conman honouring the summons esp. if he has a record.. Pesa yako utapata..


Exactly @ Mozenrat, safcom just can't allow conmen to get away that easily, MPesa would die an instant death!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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The fast & furious
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:35:03 AM
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Attention Beneficiary,

We wish to inform you that the United Nations Organization (UNO) in conjuction with CIMB BANK OF MALAYSIA has taking over your Grant Award/Inheritance Winning Payment issue in which you presently have with your transaction agents. Your funds was withdrawn by UNITED NATIONS ORGANIZATION on your behalf based on the fact that you where subjected to too many processess that will make you spend more money before receiving your funds. Your Grant Award/Inheritance Winning Payment has been paid out to the United Nations Organization, and they have succeeded in depositing your funds with us. They have ordered CIMB BANK OF MALAYSIA to take full responsibility in the Delivery/Transfer process of your funds. Hence, we at CIMB BANK OF MALAYSIA wish to officially inform you that your initial won sum, in which your Email Address was selected as the certified beneficiary to the said funds, has been curtailed to $780,000.00 USD (SEVEN HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS) in you!
r favour due to recent governmental laws.

An Inter-Switch ATM Card with a fund worth $780,000.00 USD has been accredited in your favor by CIMB BANK OF MALAYSIA. Your Personal Identification Number are ATM-4278763100030014. The ATM Card has a daily withdrawal limit of $5,000.00 USD per Day. You are advised to contact Dr. Jean Yap DIRECTOR ON ATM CARD PAYMENT COMMITTEE of CIMB BANK OF MALAYSIA immediately with the details bellow:

Jean Yap Yoke Yuen
Head, Direct Banking & Cards
Official E-mail: cimb-onlinetransfer@cimbbkn-my.com

THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION BELOW ARE TO BE SUPPLIED COMPREHENSIVELY BY THE BENEFICIARY OF THE STATED FUNDS AND SENT TO Mr. Y. K. Jean Yap, Via E-MAIL:( cimb-onlinetransfer@cimbbkn-my.com ).

1. FULL NAMES OF BENEFICIARY:
2. RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS:
3. DATE AND PLACE OF BIRTH:
4. DIRECT TELEPHONE NUMBERS:
5. NAME AND ADDRESS OF NEXT OF KIN:
6. SEX/GENDER:
7. OCCUPATION:
8. MARITAL STATUS:
9. WINNING EMAIL:
10. NATIONALITY:
11. ATM CARD NUMBER:
12. SCAN COPY OF DRIVER'S LICENSE OR INTERNATIONAL PASSPORT IF ANY

This is to ensure that you receive your ATM CARD Grant Award/Inheritance Winning Payment on time to avoid further delay. You are also advise to keep your grant award information secret, until you receive your ATM CARD. This is to avoid the issue of double claims.

For Further Directives Please Call,
Mr. Waleed Raymond,
Telephone: +60102856684.
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