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Sasha
#1 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 6:06:00 AM
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Hi guys,

I'm looking for a competent mechanic to restore an old car that has been left to me. It will need all the works i.e. body kit,new engine,new interior the works!

If you know some one or had experience doing this please refer me and give me your advice. Thank you!


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Njunge
#2 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 6:40:00 AM
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@Sasha,

Most car restoring garages/mechanics specialize on certain model(s)........It would help to know what kind of a car you want to restore......Don't be shy of joining the league of bijuti owners.......-:)........Wewe kwisa.....!!

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Sasha
#3 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 6:54:00 AM
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@Njung'e

Its not a bijuti! From the experiences I've seen here, I would not touch a bijuti with a barge pole!

It is a Ford Escort, very beaten up, I believe more rusted than your bijuti! It is the 1984 sports model!


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Djinn
#4 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 7:06:00 AM
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@Sasha - is that the Ford Escort as known as Ford Laser (a hatchback)? Might be hard to maintain that unless you undertake some modifications...an idea is to shop around at the concours (I belive in Aug/Sep) - either for advice or a buyer (even as a Rally car - there are much older escorts rallying around) - if it was a Mini I'd point you in the right direction....

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Njunge
#5 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 7:24:00 AM
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@Djinn,
84 model is unlikely to be a 'Laser'.............I bet it must be a Ford Escort 'G'.Had a wide wheelbase and lo CoG than a laser.Engine/parts are compatible with quite a number of EU models of it's age.The problem might be body kits although i know you can get them from outside the country.....

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Sasha
#6 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 7:34:00 AM
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@Djinn:

Njung'e is absolutely right. It is the G model 1.6L GT.

@Njung'e

Please do not say out of the country because I will just abandon the project all together! I'm thinking of buying a new engine, have it panel beaten properly mpaka ikuwe nyweeee! Redo the interior (dashboard looks like a cutting board) and put in new wheels! Mambo ya outside the country will not do!


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The Real Shaft
#7 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 7:41:00 AM
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bijuti is the way to go...

or any other old model of moto-gari that is common......

(just did a 505 SR....)

(its a real cat.... meoowwww..... and a purrrrr......)

and especially from makers who interchange spare parts....

Ford GT...

my best bet...

get a second one in running condition....

tear it up.....

and ..........

rebuild one.....

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Njunge
#8 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 8:43:00 AM
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@Sasha,
You may get a few integral parts,or their equivalents locally,but the dashboard i highly doubt.You may have someone in the know have a look at your car and they surely should give you a good opinion and a provisional quote.......Be warned.Restoring this things is a pricey affair.

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Sasha
#9 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 8:58:00 AM
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Thank you Njung'e! That is exactly what I'm looking for, someone in the know! So far I've got one qoutation as follows:

Engine: Toyota Levin for Kshs 40,000/-

Interior: Including upholstery,wiring and dashboard: Kshs 35,000/-

Panel beating & Paint job: Kshs 50,000/-

Wheels: Kshs 35,000/-

Thats Kshs 160k which I thought was on the higher side. Thoughts?


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Djinn
#10 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 9:06:00 AM
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Njunge,dude,I am belittled by your knowledge smile @Sasha - 160k is not really much if the car will be as good as new - esp the wiring and interior. I think you can haggle a bit on the body work and if the wheels are wheels (rim plus tyre)35 k is fine if you are getting alloy rims + tyres (cant be bigger than 13' i think) What about outside parts like lenses,headlights,etc? And I think if you want to ditch it,at least try to shop around for enthusiasts - put up a poster at Sarit or sthg.

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Sasha
#11 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 1:06:00 PM
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Thank you Djinn! I don't intend to sell it coz it has sentimental value. I'd actually forgotten about those outside parts.

I'm still looking for someone in the know and not those Mash Auto or Auto Perfection chaps!


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Sasha
#12 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 11:55:00 AM
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Got another quote today from the Unity Garage chaps!

Interior: 45k

Wheels (14' alloy rims plus tyres): 36k

Body works (panel beating, spraying): 55k

Electrics (wiring,lenses,headlights): 40k

I found these guys damn expensive!


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jaribu
#13 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 12:13:00 PM
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for those who want panel beating,I would recommend VAS AUTOMOBILE in industrial area opp House of Manji. This guys mean business when it comes to their profession. They are appointed agents for AA and also undertake repairs for UN and even some Govt cars of course due to quality work. They have huge cranes and robots just like those garages in Europe. I found them quite good and prices for individuals are competitive!

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Magigi
#14 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 12:25:00 PM
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....Sasha; why don't you take it to Mash auto for,is it 'souping'? or one does that after collecting and fixing all the parts?
Sasha
#15 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 12:38:00 PM
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@Magigi: It is not souping. It is restoration. Souping is for teenagers! I just want the car restored to be as new! Plus the Mash Auto guys are too extravagant. Their interior work including wiring and lighting was quoted at 80k, wheels cost 45k, and body work and painting was quoted 65k! This is before I even buy a new engine which they quoted 80k for a Toyota Levin!

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Obi 1 Kanobi
#16 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 2:27:00 PM
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@Sasha

Will the car be comfortable when all that is done,why are you bothering to restore the car when the only aspect of the original car it retains is the body shape.


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JkMwatha
#17 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2009 7:21:00 PM
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Restoration??? ..... replacing Ford with a Toyota engine?

More like a conversion..... (I stand to be collected).
Sasha
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:36:00 AM
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@JKMwatha & Obi wan!

I wish I could get a new ford engine but those things are damn expensive. Plus, can I get a new Ford Escort engine? Do they still make them? I thought the closest I could get would be a Ford Falcon engine. As much as I want to restore (convert for you JK) it, I also don't want to disfigure my finances!

The car will be comfortable. I just want to have an alternative to drive over the weekend or on my local tourism drives. It has a sentimental value, that's why I don't want to see it rot away due to neglect.




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JkMwatha
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:01:00 PM
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@Sasha- you dont want to import? Why give yourself limitations?


tafuta on ebay uk... possibly £15-30k max. used +any other parts you need (Always honest descriptions - hauwezi danganywa)....
ask that cazo of yours (here honesty might come at a premium) in UK to send through wale waria wa eastliegh (?) You pay for delivery when it arrives (deliveries weekly).
No duty/no tax/no other costs... (unless your rela charges his/her own VAT).

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Sasha
#20 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:06:00 AM
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@JkMwatha: Haiya! I have a cazo in UK? Did not know that!

Import from ebay? Never thought of that. I had budgeted a total of 150k which I hoped to negotiate down to 130k. I will check out what I can find on ebay. Thank you for your advice! Much appreciated!


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