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Kikuyu Burial.. Question?
sparkly
#11 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 7:31:18 AM
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There is this mzungu colleague who had been ailing. He was admitted to hosp on tuesday but died later in the day. On wednesday we held a wake in the office that was attended by his wife, 2 kids, parents and bro. On thursday we collected his body from the mortgue for cremation at kariokor. Mambo kwisha!
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#12 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:44:08 AM
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The muslim way of burial before 24 hours is the best. Give credit where it's due.
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vinii
#13 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:31:28 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
burn the dead before the third day after death. preserve the ash .
OR donate the body to a research center.
Alternatively, Harvest the organs.A dead body is like a scrap or damaged car.Get the spare parts for the one that can be repaired.
hehehe, i like the analogy! You forgot the panel beating part!
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#14 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:49:38 AM
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@puty,sorry for your loss. what i dont like is the idea of giving politicians a campaign platform.
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Um Sayala
#15 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:58:37 AM
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Cultures are just that, CULTURES. None should be thought to be superior to others. If Kiuks dont like seeing/viewing their dead,its ok but should not be thought to be superior one unlike those who view. If one dies in Mombasa, an due to finances one father/bro/siz cd not travel to the morgue, and wishes to view the body on arrival, say in Eldoret, to some this will be outdated but to others its the best. A family deciding to ash their deadmay be excommunicated from one society but not the other. The catch word is DIVERSITY. muslims do it in 24hrs, others one week, while others two years. Even 25 Dec is a pagan day adopted by x-tians but try telling that to x-tians and ull get their wrath.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:47:33 AM
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Culture or no culture.I used to view bodies until one day I started questioning the reason why I do it.

Tunaambiana nini? s(he) is gone and if I didnt spend time with the deceased then thats it.But again it all depends on the individual whether you want to view is upto you.Criticising those who do is not right probably its a way of them paying their last respect.
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#17 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 1:50:25 PM
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Um Sayala wrote:
Even 25 Dec is a pagan day adopted by x-tians but try telling that to x-tians and ull get their wrath.

Christmas is the day Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus.Whether it was a pagan day or not is irrelevant history.We don't have a day for pagans in the Christian calendar!
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#18 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 2:14:49 PM
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On the mourning method and interment process, we can't judge much.People believe that viewing of the corpse helps in healing by making the bereaved come to terms with the loss of a loved one.When you see that bubbly energetic person lying lifeless and breathless, you will put away any doubts that the person could be alive.That's why the loudest wailing is at the body viewing stage for acceptance that someone has dparted is key to healing.But the process is varied all over the world.I appreciate the western Kenya way of making the funeral thing to last for weeks after the burial coz it enhances healing(but I hate the way idlers take advantage of the process to loot from the bereaved).I watched a feature sometime back ön Ghanaian mourning.It takes 3 months and is a very xpensive and heavily publicised event!
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#19 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:07:58 PM
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There is nothing 'cultural' about the way Kikuyu's bury their dead - it is a recently acquired trait, mostly reinforced by the Churches. Traditionally Kikuyu people did not bury the dead and there is no 'superiority' in doing it one way and not another. After all, in Africa death, like birth is a community event and different communities mark it in different ways.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:19:20 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
There is nothing 'cultural' about the way Kikuyu's bury their dead - it is a recently acquired trait, mostly reinforced by the Churches. Traditionally Kikuyu people did not bury the dead and there is no 'superiority' in doing it one way and not another. After all, in Africa death, like birth is a community event and different communities mark it in different ways.


I am sure you mean "traditional". That is not the same thing as "cultural". Burying within a week of death and no viewing the body at home is now definitely part of Kikuyu culture.
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