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Fueling Your Car? Watch Out!
MaichBlack
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:51:45 AM
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The government has started controlling the price of fuel but the oil cartels will not let go of their super normal profits. How will they still make the huge profits, you may ask. Simple. I am very sure most of them will manipulate the fuel dispensing machines to dispense less fuel than indicated on the machine. Unless the government actively involves other agencies like weights and measures and sets very high fines for culprits, I see Kenyans being fleeced kama kawaida. I'll be avoiding independent fuel stations for now just to be on the safe side. Use this thread to share with the rest any fuel stations you have reasons to believe have manipulated their dispensing machines. Just compare volumes for a given amount you spend.
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MaichBlack
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:53:22 AM
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True of False?: I'm made to understand that there are fuel stations which cannot sell to you fuel if you have your own container. They insist on using theirs for 'safety' reasons! You leave a deposit and get it back when you return the container. Apparently they are avoiding a situation where you show up with a 5 litre jerrycan, buy 5 litres of fuel only to notice your jerrycan is 3/4 full! How true is this?
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tuvok
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:32:51 AM
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@MaichBlack toboa...
Elder
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:39:54 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
True of False?: I'm made to understand that there are fuel stations which cannot sell to you fuel if you have your own container. They insist on using theirs for 'safety' reasons! You leave a deposit and get it back when you return the container. Apparently they are avoiding a situation where you show up with a 5 litre jerrycan, buy 5 litres of fuel only to notice your jerrycan is 3/4 full! How true is this?


I think it is more of a way of trying to make sure that people don't buy fuel to burn stuff with. Like those secondary school kids do once in a while. Not that it is a foolproof way of coz.
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MaichBlack
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:53:07 AM
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Elder wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
True of False?: I'm made to understand that there are fuel stations which cannot sell to you fuel if you have your own container. They insist on using theirs for 'safety' reasons! You leave a deposit and get it back when you return the container. Apparently they are avoiding a situation where you show up with a 5 litre jerrycan, buy 5 litres of fuel only to notice your jerrycan is 3/4 full! How true is this?


I think it is more of a way of trying to make sure that people don't buy fuel to burn stuff with. Like those secondary school kids do once in a while. Not that it is a foolproof way of coz.

But they still sell the fuel to you only that they have to put it in their container for which you leave a deposit which you get back when you return the container! How does this stop you from buying fuel to burn stuff with? The ones who want to prevent you from buying fuel for other manenos have a very simple policy. No selling fuel in containers - ANY type of container. Either come with your vehicle or forget the fuel!
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MatataMingi
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:01:49 AM
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I think it depends on what type of container you go with.
The petrol station I go to will not sell in plastic container.
However,if you have a proper metal jerry can it is OK.
Dod
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:01:54 AM
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Nock refused to sell me fuel in a container...said it was a Govt/NCC directive. I don't know how true that is. Bought at KK across the road.
Also Shell will not sell you fuel in a container.
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tuvok
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:09:47 AM
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I think this is a rather silly rule.

Isn't Kerosene sold in containers? Isn't it flammable?
milken
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:57:27 AM
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@ MaichBlack
I think you either have a very low opinion of oil companies or you listen to village politics a lot.

1. How many oil majors (Total. Shell or KK) run stations?
2. How will an oil company benefit from shortchanging you at the pump when by that time the company has already sold the fuel to the dealer at made its margin?
3. Do you know that SGS is contracted by Ministry of Energy to do random cheques on all stations checcking for adulteration and calibration?

Regarding selling of fuel in containers, that a request by the GOK thro PIEA that oil companies should desist from selling fuel in jerrycans to reduce incidences of arson.

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MaichBlack
#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:33:16 AM
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milken wrote:
@ MaichBlack
I think you either have a very low opinion of oil companies or you listen to village politics a lot.

@milken - I know you used to work for an oil company [probably still do] but you should not let that cloud your judgment. Blind loyalty is very dangerous. Anyway, see the link below to see what other Wazuans think of oil companies.

Less Fuel Than you Paid For

milken wrote:
1. How many oil majors (Total. Shell or KK) run stations?
2. How will an oil company benefit from shortchanging you at the pump when by that time the company has already sold the fuel to the dealer at made its margin?

Please read carefully before replying. Don't get emotional for no good reason. See what I had written.
MaichBlack wrote:
I'll be avoiding independent fuel stations for now just to be on the safe side.

What does tell you? I have a higher level of confidence [definitely NOT 100%] in the controls put in place by the 'oil majors' than independent fuel stations!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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