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Wikileaks - Kibaki and Raila support impunity
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#1 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:36:43 AM
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........."Most of the political and economic elite (to greater and lesser extents) compose the vested interests that benefit from and support impunity and the lack of accountability with respect to governance, state resources, and the rule of law. This includes President Kibaki and Prime Minister Odinga, who signed the coalition agreement, as well as most of the members of the Cabinet and leaders of the political parties".

Very interesting link

http://213.251.145.96/origin/41_0.html
DonBen
#2 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:48:20 AM
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Understandable but not entirely true.

With the signing of the National Accord and Reconciliantion Agreement (NARA) Kibaki and Raila became what you can call siamese twins.

They are jointly to be blamed for government inaction and corruption.

But in reality, Kibaki bears more responsibility.
india
#3 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:55:58 AM
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@DonBen, i think the equitable way to share the blame is to base it on individual paystub, otherwise the two should follow Ruto to The Hague.
Impunity
#4 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 12:16:51 PM
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I welcome more senior supporters.

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#5 Posted : Friday, December 10, 2010 1:49:41 PM
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“Sometimes Ranneberger speaks too much and carelessly. He lives in Kenya (but) he is a visitor. If he wants to advise us, he is free to do so but we want visitors to respect us. Mr Ranneberger is not Kenyan and Kenya is not a colony of his country!” Raila to BBC

'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
Ms Mkenya
#6 Posted : Friday, December 10, 2010 2:26:34 PM
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selah wrote:
“Sometimes Ranneberger speaks too much and carelessly. He lives in Kenya (but) he is a visitor. If he wants to advise us, he is free to do so but we want visitors to respect us. Mr Ranneberger is not Kenyan and Kenya is not a colony of his country!” Raila to BBC



It was about time someone told the American that!!!
Kwanza in Africa visitors are not allowed to insult their hosts.. RBG aambiwe hivyo..
....above all, to stand.
famooz
#7 Posted : Friday, December 10, 2010 2:26:53 PM
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At the risk of being showered with insults,i agree with this assessment of the situation in this country.
anasazi
#8 Posted : Friday, December 10, 2010 3:41:57 PM
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Why is it that when people are caught out they plead sovereignty? What about the poor and oppressed of this country? Are they sovereignly deciding their fates when the leaders of this sovereign land turn a deaf ear to, or participate in impunity? This sovereignty is overrated!
Form is temporary, class is permanent
aemathenge
#9 Posted : Friday, December 10, 2010 4:38:13 PM
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You need respect, earn it.
mwenza
#10 Posted : Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:17:22 PM
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famooz wrote:
At the risk of being showered with insults,i agree with this assessment of the situation in this country.



Seconded!!!
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Mpenzi
#11 Posted : Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:36:27 PM
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famooz wrote:
At the risk of being showered with insults,i agree with this assessment of the situation in this country.


famooz, only a fool would insult you. it is patently clear that Kibaki and Raila are part of the age-old networks of impunity ..... and these networks continue to evolve, bringing in younger blood to perpetuate the hold on power and thus access to ill-gotten wealth.
YesuWangu
#12 Posted : Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:41:33 PM
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mwenza wrote:
famooz wrote:
At the risk of being showered with insults,i agree with this assessment of the situation in this country.



Seconded!!!


Thirded!!!


Anasazi is also correct. This sovereignty card has been overplayed and is so stale. that card should come into play when al shabab threatens the border, not when we are told our leaders, sorry, politicians are useless.

When politicians are in trouble with other politicians they run to their tribes ati wanamalizwa. And when they are in trouble with other governments they run to us ati 'tunamalizwa'...

ABK! ABK! ABK! Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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