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#1 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 9:29:18 AM
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Guys me i am totally confused......I need holiday and advice....

SHOULD I INVEST IN KPLC RIGHTS @ 19.5/-
OR IN KCB ?

What i m thinking or what is bugging me is, if i invest in

KPLC 1000 shares x 19.5 = 19500/=
OR
KCB 1000 shares x 21.5 = 21500/=

THEN
kplc dividend will be 1 x 1000 = 1 k
kcb dividend will be 1 x 1000 = 1 k
(PLEASE CORRECT IF I HAVE TAKEN WRONG FIGURES)

Now what about the capital gains.....
which one u think will give good returns after one year or two years.......(kplc will be under government management is there any problem if they manage this company)
I want to be a millionaire.
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My 2 cents
#2 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 9:50:25 AM
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Divide your money in two and invest in both equally. No one knows how the future will turn out.
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#3 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 9:58:41 AM
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I am seeing KPLC price rally now that the share will be more liquid unlike before the split. this is am opportunity many have been waiting for, do not be left behind.
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#4 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 10:25:51 AM
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energy sector is good to invest in there is a lot of potential but KPLC is just one lame duck company that has no ambition. This is a company that at times tells its consumers not to consume its products. As Maina Kageni said KPLC knows the directions to your house when it wants to disconnect power but you have to provide a map when you want re-connection. It has too much red tape in its procurement and it will now be worse as the government now has majority stake. The management and staff are just uninspiring. IMO 10billion in rights issue is modest to achieve the task ahead.
KPLC is giving government majority shareholding to qualify for sovereign guarantees for its future debts so it will taking a lot of debt now that the balance sheet is clean.
Looking at the information memorandum for KPLC and KCB i would rather go with KCB
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#5 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 11:57:56 AM
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I vote KPLC over KCB at current prices...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#6 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 12:07:45 PM
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I would vote K.P.L.C over K.C.B because the future is extremely bright for K.P.L.C especially at current prices and K.C.B manage their asset base very poorly and are open to many provisions due to its interaction with G.O.K
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#7 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 4:38:00 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
As Maina Kageni said KPLC knows the directions to your house when it wants to disconnect power but you have to provide a map when you want re-connection.

Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly Why prompts them to even do that? NKT!
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#8 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 7:22:35 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
As Maina Kageni said KPLC knows the directions to your house when it wants to disconnect power but you have to provide a map when you want re-connection.

Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly Why prompts them to even do that? NKT!
LOL... Maybe mkonomtupu's KCB chq did not pass muster with KPLC...
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#9 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 7:40:42 PM
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why KPLC:
1. As any economy grows so does its energy requirement which has to be distributed(KPLC). Kenya's economy is expected to grow at 5%.
2. Govt's 5 yr infrastructure & energy investment & development plan.
3. KPLC's investment in prepaid meters thus reduction in bad debts.
4. Creation of more paying points thus costs reduced.
5. Electrical items deemed luxuries becoming necessities e.g. fridges thus billing juu.
6. Transmission taken up by KETRACO thus concentrates on distribution.
7. MONOPOLY
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#10 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 7:48:48 PM
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Will transmission being taken up by KETRACO lead to any decline in revenue for KPLC?
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#11 Posted : Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:03:54 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Will transmission being taken up by KETRACO lead to any decline in revenue for KPLC?


KETRACO is a transmission company meaning it will own most of the new transmission lines that are set up but almost all these new lines will be managed by K.P.L.C to handle distribution...

IMHO the only way this will affect K.P.L.C is it will greatly reduce the pace of their asset growth but it might actually benefit them profitwise because of reduced costs on asset maintainance
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#12 Posted : Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:04:57 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I vote KPLC over KCB at current prices...

ME TOO
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#13 Posted : Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:03:57 PM
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Kcb expand into Tz, Ug, Ss, Rwanda etc. Kplc in kenya only. Marginal cost of acquiring one customer by kcb lower than for kplc. In the longterm the future of kcb is brighter.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:34:43 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Kcb expand into Tz, Ug, Ss, Rwanda etc. Kplc in kenya only. Marginal cost of acquiring one customer by kcb lower than for kplc. In the longterm the future of kcb is brighter.

kplc is suppose to connect all kenyans with power-monopoly. While not all kenyans may not open an account with kcb infact for every 10 customers for kplc only 3 may and only may open account with kcb. Ni sawa ndugu au dadangu
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#15 Posted : Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:17:02 AM
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LOL... Let's just split the group into Team KCB & Team KPLC... I will head Team KPLC... @sparkly can head Team KCB...
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#16 Posted : Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:39:04 AM
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And which team will yaserbigchair head?
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#17 Posted : Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:52:08 AM
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Various teams and their heads. robertyawe = Team Eveready, deal = Team KQ, qw = Team Mumias (also vice head of Team Eveready) Guru = Team Jubilee. VVS, you also serve on the boards of Teams KQ, Williamson, KK, Kapchorua. Also recognised as a founding member of Kenyans Against Merali (Wazua Chapter) smile
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#18 Posted : Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:19:46 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
And which team will yaserbigchair head?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...."as I had said earlier NEVER FALL IN LOVE WITH A STOCK".

I wonder if there is any stock he can head...Sad
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#19 Posted : Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:49:10 AM
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@youcant... LOL... That is hilarious!!! Nice one!

For @YCAPSBIGSHIT seems if he combines forces with @qw they can head

TEAM ALL-CAPS
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#20 Posted : Sunday, December 05, 2010 12:43:36 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Various teams and their heads. robertyawe = Team Eveready, deal = Team KQ, qw = Team Mumias (also vice head of Team Eveready) Guru = Team Jubilee. VVS, you also serve on the boards of Teams KQ, Williamson, KK, Kapchorua. Also recognised as a founding member of Kenyans Against Merali (Wazua Chapter) smile

i will head diamond, and a team player at kplc and deputise in CIC
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