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mtaalam
#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:56:00 AM
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All I can say is 'thanks God for China'.
I think China is now the new destination for any official acting on behalf of our govt.
America doesn't seem as attractive especially after you read the small print.

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The Real Shaft
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:10:00 AM
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Gen. Carson....

walks into Uganda... after the Baganda massacre ....

and leaves a healthy package to ensure Uganda ...

does not become independent....

their budget is over 80% donor supported....

Kenya.....

if these rambling idiots don't make us broke.....

we are less than 3% assisted......

with the hope that next budget ....

which shall be in the trillion.....

will not have a component for the donors......

and this is not pleasant....

so what do they do....

support a politician who will send us back into the Moi doldrums.....

and we watch.....

I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
Brewer
#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:15:00 AM
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Kenyans,address the real question: Who do you think you are to these Americans? rather than,Who do the Americans think we are? They have a right to be and to their country. How about you?
kritik
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:27:00 AM
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screw the americans!!! waende kwao na hizo visa zao!
who told carson and co that america is heaven on earth??
shindwe!!!!
lets look to the east
china nad india are the next frontiers!!!

thats it!
Mr.Tea
#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:44:00 AM
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These Americans have managed to pull the wool over our eyes. They would like hoodwink the public though their sanctimonious deeds citing Obama's love for this nation.Truth is they don't care about our self inflicted woes any more than they care about the Somalis.If you were keen on news yesterday,there was this item about the small matter of aid to Uganda to the tune of $246million. Now Uganda is by all accounts more unstable than Kenya but they have recently discovered the black gold curse. Methinks that the Americans are out on a mission to discredit the leadership(Kenyan) thereby shredding all their credibility so that they are in no position to negotiate on our behalf. Over the years we'll look back and wonder what ran us over.

Patience Pays in Guaranteed Checks
Patience Pays In Guaranteed Checks.
yekeyeke
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:51:00 AM
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As i stated,kama obama anataka baba jimi atoke,its easy to say,kwenda huko. But i think they cant due to the leeway that kibs has giuven the chinese and as of now,i dont think the US embassy and their assitant to clinton has any access to state house. aks your self. Have you ever seen the sec of state come to kenya and lack to meet with the head of state? And now kibs has travelled to Nigeria,all that mzee carson can do is give a press conference....and give vague descriptions. of people whose visa's have been revoked. I think there is a lot we are not being told. This link we have with china is driving the ammericans and their british cousins nuts and they are now employing this geo political push that does not seem to be going anywhere.

Why would washington critisice the kenyan head of state,he replies and one week later,the chinese ambasador,meets the head of state,in harambee house,to anounce that they are taking over the funding,constructio of the raod and rail network in kenya?

If the us goes to dar,then they will have to take at least another 5 years to build a southern corridor with a rail line to boot and heavily fund its operations as the route is at least 3 times longer than the northen corridor.

Wach this space. mambo bado.


'You can fool all the people some of the time,and some of the people all the time,but you cannot fool all the people all the time.'
Abraham Lincoln.
enigma
#17 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:53:00 AM
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alot of pple here are hypocrytical....We practically beg the west to help us out when we need help(which is everyday)....be it drought,floods,diseases....YES,SOME PPL ARE already thinking we can do without aid..realy? can we really do without all the foreign funded NGOs that build schools,dispensaries,boreholes all over the nation? How many pple will be jobless wen AGOA expires?

Oh,so we want help but we dont want to be told how to govern yourself....having proved over and over again just how inept we are in governance.....

We cant fight corruption to save our lives....so whats wrong with americans makin noise about a travel ban?...simple-they know most of these bigwigs have their children abroad while they destroy us here....it makes sense if they n their families cant run away from the rot they hav caused....

Am not a fan of americans...but dont delude urself that in this lifetime u can do without their 'big brother' attitude...

we made our bed,so must we lay in it.


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Ericks
#18 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:00:00 AM
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If i read n understood my history when i had the time,then i must have come accross a phrase that says there is no such thing as an 'american by origin',everyone in that country is an immigrant or is in a generation of immigrants from another part of the world,thats how the social diversity in the states came about. with that in mind i fail to understand why the US thinks they can screw whoever they feel like screwing yet if anything,they built that country with resources from other countries including kenya.

They are simply doing what we call 'gucokia gwoko' in the pub language

On putting maself in their shoes,4 one to be screwed he/she has to be willing,vulnerable or desperate,otherwise it wouldnt happen so this is our own making.....

Av never had of anyone or anything that died for not going to the states,there are hundreds of other countries to visit so i dont understand whats the fuss about United States...



Its just me whatever choice you make in life make sure that you can live with it.
mtaalam
#19 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:34:00 AM
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@ enigma
I'm one of the hypocritical people who believe we can do without donor aid.
We just need to fight and get things right in this beautiful,bountiful nation. A day will come when the middle class will say enough is enough and we will have a new Kenya.

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mukoya
#20 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:08:00 AM
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dont thank God for china i guess china might be worse than the state,remeber when zim were goin to elections whose shipment of arms was heading there....china,the darfur war whose watchin it unabated...china lets agree when sumthing nice is done en dont question it for one,rumour is that Obama wants to do away with all this no goods en i for one support that look at how the constitution review has taken the rout of bounderies are this egoistic politicians people to be let loose no ban all of them

absolute power controls absolutely
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