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Fundamental investor - Eveready
sparkly
#41 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:13:37 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Somebody here said paka will start manufacturing condoms how far is that?
Then there are those toys they can sell... and which need batteries... Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

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alikujia
#42 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 11:05:47 PM
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the ceo is quite corporate-bash outgoing. I wonder what jokes he makes when his friends make sly comments during the small talks. Because at this rate he can only joke it away instead of chocking with rage as iam sure many ask him of prospects.
youcan'tstopusnow
#43 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:36:21 AM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Somebody here said paka will start manufacturing condoms how far is that?
Then there are those toys they can sell... and which need batteries... Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

kwa kwa kwaaaa umenimaliza

Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly Kali hiyo! I had missed that. But were Eveready to decide to go that way, they would be subject to parliamentary debate. The enterprise would be deemed 'unafrican' (unlike mega-corruption,hunger,disease,etc). I can just picture Khalwale: ''Neveready must go!''
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
VituVingiSana
#44 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:00:53 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Somebody here said paka will start manufacturing condoms how far is that?
Then there are those toys they can sell... and which need batteries... Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

kwa kwa kwaaaa umenimaliza

Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly Kali hiyo! I had missed that. But were Eveready to decide to go that way, they would be subject to parliamentary debate. The enterprise would be deemed 'unafrican' (unlike mega-corruption,hunger,disease,etc). I can just picture Khalwale: ''Neveready must go!''
Me thinks khalwale doesn't make his wife come so... she might have one of those in her drawer...d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#45 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:57:31 PM
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robertyawe wrote:
This is a very stable company with a product that have longevity and it is very well run with no dominant individual shareholder as is visible in a company like EA Cables. Eveready has 3 shareholders who in total own 63% thus providing a balanced ownership.

Many of us urbanites do not appreciate the power of the D battery in powering the country as many of us either have rechargeable devices or use the AA and AAA battery.

At the bottom of the pyramid the D size battery is king, ask your watchman today when you get home which battery he uses.

When looking at the shareholding of EA cables and Eveready it is shocking that less than 6 shareholders have invested more than 1 million shillings and over 99% have less than 10,000/- invested.

It tells you that the over hyped investment groups are over spread. You want your investment group notices then buy 4 million worth of Eveready shares and you will be listed in the annual report.

Eveready is a very tightly run business with very little financial acrobatics which attests to their being able to survive all this years of imported products. To better deal with issues of ownership and management Merali relinquished his chairmanship and board seat which means improved corporate governance.

Eveready has an Achilles hill as relates to the current MD, his too hands on and the board needs to start working on leadership continuity.

If we can develop strong well funded investment groups then we can position for the post Kenyatta generation to take control of listed companies. Investment clubs need to remain unitized and avoid becoming business owners are managers.

In the case of Eveready a buy off of ICDC would cost 72 million, a figure that can be easily raised if 10 or so clubs agreed to put aside their egos and merged. Thus being able to take a decision making position in a good company.

It is said that investment clubs hold over 35 billion (http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec/newrels/kenya-grassroots-savings-09.html) of which over 80% (28B) is in non & low performing assets such as plots and taxis.

Eveready has been able to manage their debt very efficiently and even though it took on additional debt last financial year it did it without increasing total interest payments.

For those who did not know Eveready will soon be diversifying into the baby care products such as diaper from the Playtex range this will supplement the other two consumer products for the medium income range energizer & Schick.

With the drop in calling charges from 8/- to 3/- many women who previously could not afford diapers will now be able.

In conclusion the company has a clear strategy which they follow through and this can be seen when you read the annual reports for the past 3 years.

Even though they will not be paying a dividend this year it is a solid company that has above average fundamentals and offers high opportunities for capital gains as a result of its large number of shareholders.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Wazua can be full of noise i pity you if you bought following this thread..
gatoho
#46 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:25:26 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
They should take up ths great n rare opportunity n start brewing n bottling charm!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly......I am just wondering what i would if i found i have Paka in my stable....even a Ndead paka.



Njunge we had a headmaster by that name... Hope you are no relatives!
Foresight..
stocksguru
#47 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 10:03:53 AM
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I still maintain my position that Eveready is a good buy more so now. The companies fundamentals are still intact unlike companies like Safaricom.

To a fundamental investor the profit announcement is just that an announcement. For the speculator if you took a position when it dropped to 2.60 you can be out today at 3/- and make your cool 11% over 2 days. Whose laughing now.

The fact that someone searched to retrieve this post is a clear sign that you are reading my posts.

Regards

the deal wrote:
robertyawe wrote:
This is a very stable company with a product that have longevity and it is very well run with no dominant individual shareholder as is visible in a company like EA Cables. Eveready has 3 shareholders who in total own 63% thus providing a balanced ownership.

Many of us urbanites do not appreciate the power of the D battery in powering the country as many of us either have rechargeable devices or use the AA and AAA battery.

At the bottom of the pyramid the D size battery is king, ask your watchman today when you get home which battery he uses.

When looking at the shareholding of EA cables and Eveready it is shocking that less than 6 shareholders have invested more than 1 million shillings and over 99% have less than 10,000/- invested.

It tells you that the over hyped investment groups are over spread. You want your investment group notices then buy 4 million worth of Eveready shares and you will be listed in the annual report.

Eveready is a very tightly run business with very little financial acrobatics which attests to their being able to survive all this years of imported products. To better deal with issues of ownership and management Merali relinquished his chairmanship and board seat which means improved corporate governance.

Eveready has an Achilles hill as relates to the current MD, his too hands on and the board needs to start working on leadership continuity.

If we can develop strong well funded investment groups then we can position for the post Kenyatta generation to take control of listed companies. Investment clubs need to remain unitized and avoid becoming business owners are managers.

In the case of Eveready a buy off of ICDC would cost 72 million, a figure that can be easily raised if 10 or so clubs agreed to put aside their egos and merged. Thus being able to take a decision making position in a good company.

It is said that investment clubs hold over 35 billion (http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec/newrels/kenya-grassroots-savings-09.html) of which over 80% (28B) is in non & low performing assets such as plots and taxis.

Eveready has been able to manage their debt very efficiently and even though it took on additional debt last financial year it did it without increasing total interest payments.

For those who did not know Eveready will soon be diversifying into the baby care products such as diaper from the Playtex range this will supplement the other two consumer products for the medium income range energizer & Schick.

With the drop in calling charges from 8/- to 3/- many women who previously could not afford diapers will now be able.

In conclusion the company has a clear strategy which they follow through and this can be seen when you read the annual reports for the past 3 years.

Even though they will not be paying a dividend this year it is a solid company that has above average fundamentals and offers high opportunities for capital gains as a result of its large number of shareholders.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Wazua can be full of noise i pity you if you bought following this thread..

the deal
#48 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2010 10:29:10 AM
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Quote:
[quote=stocksguru]I still maintain my position that Eveready is a good buy more so now. The companies fundamentals are still intact unlike companies like Safaricom.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly this is the most absurd thing i have read on Wazua...comparing Neveready to Safaricom...Ok keep your Everaedy and make money..i´m happy for you.

the deal
#49 Posted : Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:26:55 PM
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Eveready reports Full Year Earnings PBT -65% here and share price data
N.S.E Equities - Industrial & Allied

Par Value: 1/-
Closing Price: 3.05
Total Shares Issued: 210,000,000
Market Capitalization: 641M
EPS: 0.04
PE: 76.25

Turnover 1.635b versus 1.645b
Full Year Sep 2010 versus Sep 2009
EPS 0.04 versus 0.13
Finance Costs 57.887m versus 26.664m

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VituVingiSana
#50 Posted : Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:32:22 PM
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This piece of crap is not worth 1/-... [In my defence, I have not bothered researched it]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Robin hood
#51 Posted : Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:56:46 PM
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@the deal,vvs u made my evening with ur condom thing lmao lmao
hisah
#52 Posted : Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:19:48 PM
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Wow! The P&L is printed with font size 3. It's a loan form fineprint that needs a magnifying glass to read.
If you take an avg PE of 15 & the 0.04cts EPS that leads to 0.60cts as the share price. So, the share price still has thousands of feet to fall to reach realistic levels?!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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