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Better Internet Access: Zuku (Fiber) vs Mobile telecoms
mmarto
#1 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 9:36:02 PM
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Hi Wazuans,
Alot has been shared on our mobile telecom service providerss. Safcom and Orange 3G+ claim speeds of 3.1 Mbps and 3.6 Mbps respectifully. It appears safcom is faster but more expensive than Orange. My query is how do these mobile phone providers compare with the cable(fibre) providers? I got a quote from Zuku saying they provide these services:
3 broadband packages,all unlimited connections:
1. Turbo1(1Mbps)@ 999 per month
2. Turbo4 (4Mbps)@ 1,999 per month1
3 Turbo8 (4Mbps)@ 3,499 per month
on top of this is a connection fee of 2,999.
Any ideas of which is a better option for home between zuku and mobile providers?cost effective, conveniency,etc.
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mmarto
#2 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 9:38:15 PM
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correction:
3 Turbo8 at 8Mbps and not 4Mbps
The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
amga
#3 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 11:20:33 PM
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are these speeds guaranteed or jus plain marketing
ajhsumar
#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:10:14 AM
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I have used all and my analysis are that mobile internet providers are the best especially safaricom and Orange.
Elder
#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:46:58 PM
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ajhsumar wrote:
I have used all and my analysis are that mobile internet providers are the best especially safaricom and Orange.


Have you tried the ZUKU fibre as opposed to ZUKU WIMAX? The costs by the OP are for the fibre and need info from anyone who has tried them as am considering going ZUKU fibre. So far have heard from three people who say the fibre are out of this world and you are the first guy to say otherwise.
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otienosmall
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:46:35 PM
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Two years ago I got a quote from Zuku and the connection fee was 8, 500 ksh. They then claimed there was no signal as my house was mopped up by other tall buildings. They suggested I pick another site/person to sell to as refund will take long. I did this and signal failed in two other sites, bottom line I lost the cash. Recently, I tried getting connected in yet another premise near Kenyatta market this too failed and mark you they have an office there. Fortunately, I did not buy their story of suggesting another place and insisted on refund which I got. The thing is, their coverage is very very small and the bad thing, they insist you pay first then claim a refund……..which does not make sense coz they should know beforehand which areas are covered..
Gordon Gekko
#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:56:23 PM
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Basic rule on mobile services connection, have them PROVE there is a signal in your locality before you sign up. That's why I can't get my mum a YU line - it will never work outside her digs in the village.
alma
#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:40:56 PM
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@ajhsumar I highly doubt if you have used ALL. And if Orange is good, then I doubt if I can trust you to know what is good.

@otienosmall if it was 2 years ago, then I can assure you that a lot has changed.

Case in point. I paid for another connection to my house on Thursday evening. Got it on Friday morning. If you doubt this, come to my office and I will give you the receipts.

It is faster and better than in my office. So Gordon is right, check your area first.

I'm finding this as another of those web hack jobs by people who claim to be users.

I know that zuku has issues in my office area. Customer service has acknowledged this and its something that we have to live with until fibre comes along. But even thinking of KDN, or orange in the same area is suicide.

If you want to get mobile connectivity, please stick to safaricom and be ready to pay more.

If you are wondering what is faster, fibre or wimax, then you need serious training on internet connectivity. They don't even come close.

But don't forget that this is Kenya and people have a habit of cutting cables to make earings.Shame on you

As for guaranteed fibre speeds. Trust me, 1Mbps on fibre will be better any day than 2Mbps orange. 8Mbps on fibre is better than 3G any company and cheaper too.
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inf8nity
#9 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:18:15 PM
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As for guaranteed fibre speeds. Trust me, 1Mbps on fibre will be better any day than 2Mbps orange. 8Mbps on fibre is better than 3G any company and cheaper too.


I'm afraid I can't agree with u on this one...it's like saying 2kg of sand is lighter than 1kg of metal.

It's true fiber is superior to 3G but the fact remains 1Mbps on fiber is just the same as 1Mbps on 3G or wimax.

It all boils down to whether the connection is shared or dedicated.

So in that case a dedicated 1Mbps connection might actually be faster than a 2Mbps connection depending on the share ratio.

alma
#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:39:52 PM
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inf8nity wrote:
Quote:
As for guaranteed fibre speeds. Trust me, 1Mbps on fibre will be better any day than 2Mbps orange. 8Mbps on fibre is better than 3G any company and cheaper too.


I'm afraid I can't agree with u on this one...it's like saying 2kg of sand is lighter than 1kg of metal.

It's true fiber is superior to 3G but the fact remains 1Mbps on fiber is just the same as 1Mbps on 3G or wimax.

It all boils down to whether the connection is shared or dedicated.

So in that case a dedicated 1Mbps connection might actually be faster than a 2Mbps connection depending on the share ratio.




Please read what you quoted again and avoid misquoting me.
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otienosmall
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:44:01 PM
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@alma; true my first disappointing trial was 2 years ago. like you I assumed a lot has changed and re-applied in July 2010 and got disappointed yet again. I just crave for that day where we will have true optic fibre connection. But it might not happen soon with the players such as Safaricom controlling a big chunk of the already landed fibre. reason; with true connection, we just go skype and such other voip providers………
alma
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:05:48 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
@alma; true my first disappointing trial was 2 years ago. like you I assumed a lot has changed and re-applied in July 2010 and got disappointed yet again. I just crave for that day where we will have true optic fibre connection. But it might not happen soon with the players such as Safaricom controlling a big chunk of the already landed fibre. reason; with true connection, we just go skype and such other voip providers………



I feel you man. Like Gordon said these companies are upus and you have to find out if they offer good services in your area. Never believe the sales guys as I have found out most have no idea what they are talking about.

I don't like safcom but I have to say, that's the only reliable network anywhere in terms of internet. The others, find out if there are trees in your area and if you live near places where people ngoa reli, expect fibre cuts.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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inf8nity
#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:13:39 PM
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alma wrote:
inf8nity wrote:
Quote:
As for guaranteed fibre speeds. Trust me, 1Mbps on fibre will be better any day than 2Mbps orange. 8Mbps on fibre is better than 3G any company and cheaper too.


I'm afraid I can't agree with u on this one...it's like saying 2kg of sand is lighter than 1kg of metal.

It's true fiber is superior to 3G but the fact remains 1Mbps on fiber is just the same as 1Mbps on 3G or wimax.

It all boils down to whether the connection is shared or dedicated.

So in that case a dedicated 1Mbps connection might actually be faster than a 2Mbps connection depending on the share ratio.




Please read what you quoted again and avoid misquoting me.


c'mon wat's with the attitude?Shame on you
This is just a discussion so if u ain't ready to get corrected u goin to have to put ur ego on check n move on!

N again i insist there's no way 1Mbps is goin to be better than 2Mbps regardless of the network.smile

Elder
#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:53:27 PM
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inf8nity wrote:
alma wrote:
inf8nity wrote:
Quote:
As for guaranteed fibre speeds. Trust me, 1Mbps on fibre will be better any day than 2Mbps orange. 8Mbps on fibre is better than 3G any company and cheaper too.


I'm afraid I can't agree with u on this one...it's like saying 2kg of sand is lighter than 1kg of metal.

It's true fiber is superior to 3G but the fact remains 1Mbps on fiber is just the same as 1Mbps on 3G or wimax.

It all boils down to whether the connection is shared or dedicated.

So in that case a dedicated 1Mbps connection might actually be faster than a 2Mbps connection depending on the share ratio.




Please read what you quoted again and avoid misquoting me.


c'mon wat's with the attitude?Shame on you
This is just a discussion so if u ain't ready to get corrected u goin to have to put ur ego on check n move on!

N again i insist there's no way 1Mbps is goin to be better than 2Mbps regardless of the network.smile



Alma specifically talked of 1Mbps fibre versus 2Mbps Orange. Nothing about 'regardless of network.' Maybe it is time your ego bought some glasses or attended reading classes. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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inf8nity
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:27:00 PM
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Elder wrote:
inf8nity wrote:
alma wrote:
inf8nity wrote:
Quote:
As for guaranteed fibre speeds. Trust me, 1Mbps on fibre will be better any day than 2Mbps orange. 8Mbps on fibre is better than 3G any company and cheaper too.


I'm afraid I can't agree with u on this one...it's like saying 2kg of sand is lighter than 1kg of metal.

It's true fiber is superior to 3G but the fact remains 1Mbps on fiber is just the same as 1Mbps on 3G or wimax.

It all boils down to whether the connection is shared or dedicated.

So in that case a dedicated 1Mbps connection might actually be faster than a 2Mbps connection depending on the share ratio.




Please read what you quoted again and avoid misquoting me.


c'mon wat's with the attitude?Shame on you
This is just a discussion so if u ain't ready to get corrected u goin to have to put ur ego on check n move on!

N again i insist there's no way 1Mbps is goin to be better than 2Mbps regardless of the network.smile



Alma specifically talked of 1Mbps fibre versus 2Mbps Orange. Nothing about 'regardless of network.' Maybe it is time your ego bought some glasses or attended reading classes. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Elder thanks for ur contribution but the problem is that u r concentrating on just one line 1Mbps on fibre will be better any day than 2Mbps orange.

well if u read further he concluded 8Mbps on fibre is better than 3G any company and cheaper too.

If u read that last line then u will understand where am comin from.Laughing out loudly

Btw there is a difference between claiming to be offering 2Mbps and actually offering it.

Coz when u really run the speed test orange never hits 2Mbps.

So instead of comparing the marketing speeds lets compare the real speeds from speed test.


otienosmall
#16 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:02:31 AM
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From personal experience, I have used 3G in Kenya and I am now using 1Mbps fibre abroad and I can assure you there is completely no comparison. With the fibre I can download a 1Gb movie by torrents in less than 2hrs a thing I never achieved with 3G. either the quoted 3G speeds in Kenya are false or obviously fibre is more superior. In the midst of crooks; ‘2kg of sand could be lighter than 1kg of metal’.
alma
#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:46:08 AM
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@infinity, when you get a fibre experience, pls come and lets compare notes.

Theory is nice but I like practical things such as

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruqZDEjClis

Again pls don't misquote me. Now that is really an ego thing on my part.

Please also read

http://www.williambunce....-vs-fiber-in-japan.html

http://gizmodo.com/54976...-the-fastest-3g-network

now make your own conclusions by buying the damn things from these Kenyan providers.
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KulaRaha
#18 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:07:07 AM
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I agree. Was recently in the US, and my cousin had a 256K line at home, it was incredibly fast!!! Cant compare to my 256K at home here at all. I think local internet lines are lousy at best. Too much sharing!!
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SoulAddict
#19 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:59:47 AM
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I am one of the biggest skeptics when it comes to internet connectivity in Kenya. But Zuku really did surprise me. I went over to my cousin's place a few wks back to spend the weekend. They r hooked up to zuku and i have to say that is one consistent, strong and reliable connection. they have been using it for a few months now and are not disappointed. they got the Kshs. 4,500 option. Zuku is based in westi, so don't expect to put up a connection in ngong and expect it to work well. it all depends on signal strength. that's my two cents. all the best.
inf8nity
#20 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:55:55 PM
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alma wrote:
@infinity, when you get a fibre experience, pls come and lets compare notes.

Theory is nice but I like practical things such as

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruqZDEjClis

Again pls don't misquote me. Now that is really an ego thing on my part.

Please also read

http://www.williambunce....-vs-fiber-in-japan.html

http://gizmodo.com/54976...-the-fastest-3g-network

now make your own conclusions by buying the damn things from these Kenyan providers.


I agree with u on this one. I also said in my previous post that FIBER IS SUPERIOR TO 3G...no doubt about that.

I think where we are not agreeing is that you were basing ur point on ORANGE 3G... N my point was on general network.

So it all comes down to we are not receiving what is being marketed to us!smile
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