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CFC Stanbic Q3 results - still dwarfed by peers
mwanahisa
#1 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 10:06:30 AM
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CFC Stanbic Bank has this morning published the results for the bank only, see Page 23, Daily Nation - Nov-29-10:

PAT - 987,966,000 - UP 50.51%

This is however still lower than the PAT for all their peers i.e. DTK - 1.76B,I&M - 1.76B, CBA - 1.43B, CITI - 1.31B & NIC - 1.36B.

Note: CFC Stanbic Bank has a bigger balance sheet than all the others mentioned above.

The saving grace is that they have a further 755,058,000 in comprehensive income which they may convert to PAT at some stage in the future. However, that would only take them to the level of DTK and I&M.
Iborian
#2 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 1:55:36 PM
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It lloks like, hii, watu walisahau ama waliamua kuihepa. Absolutely no interest.
PKoli
#3 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 10:05:58 PM
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Guys where did the eps of 8.09 come from? They have over 200M shares and with PAT of about 900M, the eps should in the tune of 4.
mwanahisa
#4 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 10:21:03 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Guys where did the eps of 8.09 come from? They have over 200M shares and with PAT of about 900M, the eps should in the tune of 4.


@Pkoli, Please note that these results were for CFC Stanbic Bank not CFC Stanbic Holdings, the company listed on the NSE. They are 2 different entities even though the latter owns most of the former - about 96%, if I recall correctly.

CFC Stanbic Bank has fewer shares than the holding company. As you have correctly surmised the EPS attributable to you as a shareholder of CFC Stanbic Holdings is slightly less than Kshs 3.61 (being the 96% ownership of the Jan-Sept profits of the bank divided between 273,684,211 shares).

BTW CFC Stanbic Holdings no longer reports on a quarterly basis, unlike the bank which is obligated to do so under Central Bank regulations.
PKoli
#5 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 10:28:48 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
PKoli wrote:
Guys where did the eps of 8.09 come from? They have over 200M shares and with PAT of about 900M, the eps should in the tune of 4.


@Pkoli, Please note that these results were for CFC Stanbic Bank not CFC Stanbic Holdings, the company listed on the NSE. They are 2 different entities even though the latter owns most of the former - about 96%, if I recall correctly.

CFC Stanbic Bank has fewer shares than the holding company. As you have correctly surmised the EPS attributable to you as a shareholder of CFC Stanbic Holdings is slightly less than Kshs 3.61 (being the 96% ownership of the Jan-Sept profits of the bank divided between 273,684,211 shares).

BTW CFC Stanbic Holdings no longer reports on a quarterly basis, unlike the bank which is obligated to do so under Central Bank regulations.



Many thanks Mwanahisa. I had thought they said they will issue one insurance share for every group shareheld. I could work out the number of shares attributable to the bank from the eps.

If it has an eps of 8.09, assuming FY eps of 11, the bank should be prised reasobably at KES 130. That is my projection of the bank price at arounf Feb 2010.

Happy hunting
mwanahisa
#6 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 10:53:40 PM
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PKoli wrote:
[If it has an eps of 8.09, assuming FY eps of 11, the bank should be prised reasobably at KES 130. That is my projection of the bank price at arounf Feb 2010.

Happy hunting


Hey you are welcome, but I am afraid I am the harbinger of bad tidings....

Your post above is not the correct interpretation of the true position.

The number of shares in the bank/financial services business will be 273 million while shareholders of CFC Stanbic Holdings will get 1 (new) share in CFC Insurance Holdings for every share they hold in the former. Q3 EPS for the bank will therefore STILL be the lower figure of LESS than 3.61 rather than the 8.09.

The EPS of 8.09 is split between more shares when it is consolidated in the books of CFC Stanbic Holdings of which you hold some of the 273 million shares.
PKoli
#7 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 11:02:59 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
PKoli wrote:
[If it has an eps of 8.09, assuming FY eps of 11, the bank should be prised reasobably at KES 130. That is my projection of the bank price at arounf Feb 2010.

Happy hunting


Hey you are welcome, but I am afraid I am the harbinger of bad tidings....

Your post above is not the correct interpretation of the true position.

The number of shares in the bank/financial services business will be 273 million while shareholders of CFC Stanbic Holdings will get 1 (new) share in CFC Insurance Holdings for every share they hold in the former. Q3 EPS for the bank will therefore STILL be the lower figure of LESS than 3.61 rather than the 8.09.

The EPS of 8.09 is split between more shares when it is consolidated in the books of CFC Stanbic Holdings of which you hold some of the 273 million shares.


Me thinks the bank is yet to realize its value. I am not sure how the insurance component will perform after demarger.
sparkly
#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:08:16 AM
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@pkoli there will be lots of sell side activity on the insurance business once they list. I will be taking advantage of expected low prices to add an insurance company to my portifolio.
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