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KPLC rights issue 2011 VERRY STRONG BUY
the deal
#1 Posted : Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:53:14 PM
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KPLC rights issue VERRY STRONG BUY FOR INVESTORS 1 YEAR HORIZON

Now here is the real deal igonre the Yasser crap

2009 PAT=3.7B
No of issued shares after split and rights=1.7B
EPS=2.18
Rights price=19.50
PE=8.94
Assume a 20% increase in 2011 Full Year EPS=2.616
Forward PE=7.45
Price Target=32(32/2.616=12.2 PE)
Capital gain=64% in one year if you buy the rights at a price of 19.50, if you buy at 24 expect capital gains of 40% in 1 year...now folks buy me a cold Windhoek Lager.
jerry
#2 Posted : Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:31:08 PM
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@theDeal, tell us the Lowest price to expect on Tue 30, 2010.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:43:41 PM
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@thedeal - Some numbers need revising...
B = Billion
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#4 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:15:04 AM
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the deal wrote:
Now here is the real deal igonre the Yasser crap

2009 PAT=317B
No of issued shares after split and rights=1700B
EPS=2.18
Rights price=19.50
PE=8.94
Assume a 20% increase in 2011 Full Year EPS=2.616
Forward PE=7.45
Price Target=32(32/2.616=12.2 PE)
Capital gain=64% in one year if you buy the rights at a price of 19.50, if you buy at 24 expect capital gains of 40% in 1 year...now folks buy me a cold Windhoek Lager.

What do you mean By PAT 2009 of 317B???
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#5 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:15:16 AM
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the deal wrote:
Now here is the real deal igonre the Yasser crap

2009 PAT=317B
No of issued shares after split and rights=1700B
EPS=2.18
Rights price=19.50
PE=8.94
Assume a 20% increase in 2011 Full Year EPS=2.616
Forward PE=7.45
Price Target=32(32/2.616=12.2 PE)
Capital gain=64% in one year if you buy the rights at a price of 19.50, if you buy at 24 expect capital gains of 40% in 1 year...now folks buy me a cold Windhoek Lager.

What do you mean By PAT 2009 of 317B???
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
sheep
#6 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:15:46 AM
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the main problem with kplc is the management aspect.....now with GOK having majority control kplc cant raise elec prices as they wish coz of lobbying by mpigs and businesses.....most likely the profitability of kplc will be sacrificed for the good of the kenyan economy....and then there is the aspect of appointment of cronies as directors and it will be eaten to the bone....thus goes the story of public utilities
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:42:02 AM
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the deal wrote:

Price Target=32(32/2.616=12.2 PE)


@the deal thank you for your analysis on KPLC but dont you think your analysis on the price target is a little modest.. I say this because you have used a P/E of 12.2 while:

Industrial Sector P/E = 16.06
Kengen(peer) P/E = 19

@sheep please give G.O.K a chance... they made it pretty clear that the reason for raising their stake was not exercise control but to access cheap development loans which means less interest payments..

Another thing is that K.P.L.C is allowed by law to make a return on Assets of 10-15% meaning with its current asset base of 80 billion it can announce a profit before tax of 8-12 billion and the MPIGS can't do nothing about which is an EPS of 3-4.5...

I wonder what the value of their assets will be in 5 years????

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
the deal
#8 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:59:43 AM
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hahaha sorry folks i mearnt 3.7 Billion PAT....divide that with 1.7 Billion new shares you get an EPS of 2.18...yes Madam Guru my price target is to modest but its due to the following reasons
1. KPLC is inefficient
2. All this lawsuits from this new meters
3. KPLC only posts record profits when everyone in Kenya is crying of high power bills

Jerry i cant tell u that i´m no fortune teller.
guru267
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 10:52:12 AM
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the deal wrote:
yes Madam Guru my price target is to modest but its due to the following reasons
1. KPLC is inefficient
2. All this lawsuits from this new meters
3. KPLC only posts record profits when everyone in Kenya is crying of high power bills


I have an answer for each one of your reasons:
1. INEFFICIENCY: for the last 8 years it has been trying to handle this problem and its starting to pay off... Thats why in 2010 they were able to record increased profit even after lowering electricity prices for the year.

2 FAULTY METERS: @the deal you have got this one wrong.. The complaints were on the old meters and connections which were badly connected.. THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NEW METERS...

3. RECORD PROFITS AND HIGH POWER BILLS: Well they are justified to increase power bills to maintain adequate profit margins...

And are you aware that k.p.l.c's balance sheet is now way healthier than kengens???

Are you aware that kengen faces increasing competition from wind and coal and sugar suppliers of power in the near future whereas K.P.L.C will still be a monopoly when we've all left earth??

Are you aware G.O.K owns 70% of kengen whereas it owns 50.1% of K.P.L.C

so after all this what justifies kengen trading at P/E of 19 and K.P.L.C a P/E of 12???
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
the deal
#10 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:15:59 AM
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@Guru agreed i´m also now in the bandwagon for those who are looking to buy KPLC...after the dust has settled KPLC will rally...
TUPAC
#11 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:31:26 AM
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if kplc goes down to below 20bob this will be an advantage coz the rights off the market will be goin for a song!
and what else do long term investors need?
the share will thereafter explode like no ones business after the rights.
so i pray it goes down this week so we grab the gova rights cheaply and then sit and wait.
its unimaginable where this company will be in the next 10 years.
one only needs to travel the kenyan rural areas and see for themselves the transformation kplc is attempting! then you will know which stock to pick at the nse!
...things fall apart...the centre cannot hold..mere anarchy is loosed upon the world...w b yeats
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#12 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:02:29 PM
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SHEEP: You are a real sheep! Can't you see they can't eat too much becoz PLO is investigating lots of parastatal heads,most likely including KPLC?Kibaki will be appointing the Board Chairman and Odinga the CEO?After 2012...Odinga will appoint the Chairman,Ruto CEO,Kalonzo the internal auditor and Uhuru the Chief Accountant!!!
sheep
#13 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:08:27 PM
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Ali Baba wrote:
SHEEP: You are a real sheep! Can't you see they can't eat too much becoz PLO is investigating lots of parastatal heads,most likely including KPLC?Kibaki will be appointing the Board Chairman and Odinga the CEO?After 2012...Odinga will appoint the Chairman,Ruto CEO,Kalonzo the internal auditor and Uhuru the Chief Accountant!!!

hahaha! And a wise one who learn to use his front feet to writeLaughing out loudly kichwa kamasi .... lol!!!!
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
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#14 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:47:37 PM
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@ali baba, in this scheme of things, who will appoint the janitor? Muthutho?
Ali Baba
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:34:38 PM
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GG:That's right.Mututho might appoint the janitor;but then they (appointees) must meet regional and ethnic balance otherwise they will be hearing from Mzalendo Kibunjia.
mwanahisa
#16 Posted : Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:37:17 PM
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@the deal, g267 and others, I would caution you not to be too bullish on the possible capital gains on KPLC.

As a utility with significant impact on the cost of doing business in Kenya, KPLC will be constrained on the extent that it can raise prices.

Over the last 5 years, Profit growth for KPLC has been 29.47% in 2006, 4.49% in 2007, 2.74% in 2008, 82.72% in 2009 and 15.22% in 2010. 2009 was an outlier with the heavy increase in tariffs, so I would discount it. From this trend, I think that it is too optimistic to expect KPLC to grow profits by 20% in 2011.

Even with the rights issue money, it will take some time for the new projects to come on stream and start contributing profits. My bet is that we will see 2011 growth matching 2010 and then accelerating to the 20% range in 2012 "ceteris paribus".

Based on this, I would expect 2011 EPS at 2.5 (15% increase on 2010). There will be many new shares bought cheap, especially assuming the premium on the GOK rights is insignificant. This will tend to prevent a rapid rise in the price of the share. In the first 3 months of the new shares being listed, I would therefore expect it to trade at a forward PE ratio of no more than 12 and more likely in the 10-11 range.

This will keep the price in the 25-27.50 range. This is still a 28% to 41% upside on the rights price with possibilities of over 50%, if it gets to the PER of 12. If H1 2011 results are very good this equation could of course change. After the 2011 results are released, I will expect a steady increase into the 30s on account of dividends etc.

@g267, we have debated why I do not feel it is appropriate to compare KenGen's PER to that of KPLC. So I will not go into that (at least not on this already too long post).

I therefore second the deal's recommendation but for me it is a good BUY (not a VERRY STRONG BUY.)
The Merchant
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:56:54 PM
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Half year results just about. Time to stock up on this one....What was the effect of investing in the new meters? Will this create a one off huge expense thus making H1 results not as good or is the cost immaterial?
the deal
#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:04:11 PM
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The Merchant wrote:
Half year results just about. Time to stock up on this one....What was the effect of investing in the new meters? Will this create a one off huge expense thus making H1 results not as good or is the cost immaterial?

Not 1H but FY results...what happened to YBC?smile
Aguytrying
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:28:30 PM
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When do they normally release?
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2012
#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:32:33 PM
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the deal wrote:
The Merchant wrote:
Half year results just about. Time to stock up on this one....What was the effect of investing in the new meters? Will this create a one off huge expense thus making H1 results not as good or is the cost immaterial?

Not 1H but FY results...what happened to YBC?smile


He thinks it's half year because it's June smile

BBI will solve it
:)
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