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Rank: Member Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 274 Location: Ltktk
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@guru do you think there will be need to apply for extra rights or just get them at the market @ a premium. and now that the share is trading at around 30 bob at what premium will the rights be going for? ...things fall apart...the centre cannot hold..mere anarchy is loosed upon the world...w b yeats
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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TUPAC wrote:@guru do you think there will be need to apply for extra rights or just get them at the market @ a premium.
and now that the share is trading at around 30 bob at what premium will the rights be going for? I am not applying for additional rights because that will probably be impossible to get.... There's a lot of big money waiting for these rights so I don't know how the thing will be under subscribed... but if it is, there already institutions waiting to pounce so how will you get in... I'm planning to buy the rights off the market at a max 4 bob premium as @Ag pointed out which will bring my total average to about 17.5bob then wait for 2015 for the pot full of gold  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/22/2008 Posts: 87
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@Guru sasa hiyo ni hesabu aina gani? if you buy the rights at a premius of 4bob add the rights value at 19.5 where do you get 17.5???
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Wiztec wrote:@Guru sasa hiyo ni hesabu aina gani? if you buy the rights at a premius of 4bob add the rights value at 19.5 where do you get 17.5??? @wiztec you are forgetting to add my huge holdings that I am using to get the rights which I got at 14-15 that's what brings my average down to 17.5 Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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guru267 wrote:TUPAC wrote:@guru do you think there will be need to apply for extra rights or just get them at the market @ a premium.
and now that the share is trading at around 30 bob at what premium will the rights be going for? I am not applying for additional rights because that will probably be impossible to get.... There's a lot of big money waiting for these rights so I don't know how the thing will be under subscribed... but if it is, there already institutions waiting to pounce so how will you get in... I'm planning to buy the rights off the market at a max 4 bob premium as @Ag pointed out which will bring my total average to about 17.5bob then wait for 2015 for the pot full of gold I think you should go ahead and apply for additional rights. You may not get what you may apply for, but you will get some few extra. You never know institutional dont like tying their money, so they may not apply for as much as you may think
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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PKoli wrote:You never know institutional dont like tying their money, so they may not apply for as much as you may think @PKoli for a shareholder to get additional rights it means that another shareholder has chosen t take zero action on his/her rights... (Meaning she neither sells nor buys the rights)... How many people do you know owning K.P.L.C would choose to take no action on their rights??? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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guru267 wrote:PKoli wrote:You never know institutional dont like tying their money, so they may not apply for as much as you may think @PKoli for a shareholder to get additional rights it means that another shareholder has chosen t take zero action on his/her rights... (Meaning she neither sells nor buys the rights)... How many people do you know owning K.P.L.C would choose to take no action on their rights??? those who have odd shares and hence are unable to sell. from the register there are many people with 47 or 99 shares pre split. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander
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..there is talk..please note..talk..innuendo..aspersions..unconfirmed rumours that Jimna Mbaru(in private capacity), Kestrel, D&b, and JP Morgan are REALLY fronting KPLC to foreign investors?? lobby talk. ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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ProverB wrote:..there is talk..please note..talk..innuendo..aspersions..unconfirmed rumours that
Jimna Mbaru(in private capacity), Kestrel, D&b, and JP Morgan are REALLY fronting KPLC to foreign investors??
lobby talk.
I didnt know that foreign investors are "barred" from buying KPLC or are you only happy when foreigners create a demand thus pushing prices up? And this is a rights issue for crying out loud, not a public offer!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander
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Mpenzi wrote:ProverB wrote:..there is talk..please note..talk..innuendo..aspersions..unconfirmed rumours that
Jimna Mbaru(in private capacity), Kestrel, D&b, and JP Morgan are REALLY fronting KPLC to foreign investors??
lobby talk.
I didnt know that foreign investors are "barred" from buying KPLC or are you only happy when foreigners create a demand thus pushing prices up? And this is a rights issue for crying out loud, not a public offer! please note..i'm talking about KPLC..not the rights please. and my point has nothing to do with foreigner capacity to buy or not to. ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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Mpenzi wrote:ProverB wrote:..there is talk..please note..talk..innuendo..aspersions..unconfirmed rumours that
Jimna Mbaru(in private capacity), Kestrel, D&b, and JP Morgan are REALLY fronting KPLC to foreign investors??
lobby talk.
I didnt know that foreign investors are "barred" from buying KPLC or are you only happy when foreigners create a demand thus pushing prices up? And this is a rights issue for crying out loud, not a public offer! Foreigners can still participate in the Rights issue even if they aren't s/holders. All they need to do is buy the rights from the market! Personally, this is welcome news to me as it will increase demand and hence the price going forward! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,218 Location: Nairobi
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KPLC is selling at 29.75 - 30 in large volumes... 210,000+ shares traded & seems all local trading... [Or no net foreigners buying] Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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A QUARTER IF A BILLION worth of shares have been traded on KPLC ever since the split and today it traded over 30 towards the close... Looks like the troops have started marching in Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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@Wazua Could you tell the KPLC IT to link the banner ad on your site to something!??? NKT!
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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After today it will go ex-rights. How far down is it likely to trade b4 rights start trading on 1st Dec 2010? The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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jerry wrote:After today it will go ex-rights. How far down is it likely to trade b4 rights start trading on 1st Dec 2010? @stocksmaster believes it will fall to 25 ex rights... I tend to SLIGHTLY agree but not fully and even if so this fall will be very short lived Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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@guru, Whan they say book closure is today, does it mean books have already closed or they'll close today at end of trading?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,218 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:@guru,
Whan they say book closure is today, does it mean books have already closed or they'll close today at end of trading? Kesho ex-Rights Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,075
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Yet is has started sliding down already. The splits were credited i the CDSC accounts yesterday so I guess some guys are already bailing out..............selling their splits
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,218 Location: Nairobi
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My 2 cents wrote:Yet is has started sliding down already. The splits were credited i the CDSC accounts yesterday so I guess some guys are already bailing out..............selling their splits KPLC will release the IM kesho so foreign buyers want in but not without the IM. Funds have rules & can't invest ovyo ovyo. Anyway, the 'problem' is that competition for Rights will heat up coz they trade starting 1 Dec... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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