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After reading the sunday nation-Ngilu may go for treatment in Europe
Robinhood
#41 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 10:35:48 AM
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@Sober, that's exactly the point. He supported her coz he did not know how much others knew. See how he has changed hi tune on the fate of ministers caught in corruption!!!
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
kadonye
#42 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 11:17:04 AM
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Magigi wrote:
@Kadonye

...and by the way you were supposed to have PROPOSED!!! How did it go?

I wasn't proposing.Just seeking info so that when the time comes I'll make the right moves
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
extrablessed
#43 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 11:48:02 AM
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Robinhood wrote:
@Sober, that's exactly the point. He supported her coz he did not know how much others knew. See how he has changed hi tune on the fate of ministers caught in corruption!!!


...WITH THE COMING OF OUR NEW REPUBLIC, DO WE STILL NEED THIS KIND OF FLIP-FLOP FOR A PREZZY?
My 2 cents
#44 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 12:35:11 PM
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extrablessed wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
@Sober, that's exactly the point. He supported her coz he did not know how much others knew. See how he has changed hi tune on the fate of ministers caught in corruption!!!


...WITH THE COMING OF OUR NEW REPUBLIC, DO WE STILL NEED THIS KIND OF FLIP-FLOP FOR A PREZZY?


I guess everyone will decide for themselves at the ballot box. Do not preempt!Shame on you
poundfoolish
#45 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 1:13:29 PM
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extrablessed wrote:
Mpenzi wrote:
How fast we forget!

Ngilu has a very good track record of corruption.

Ngilu, as Minister for Health, is the one who got her daughter's NGO to organise a govt-sponsored AIDS conference in 2003 - questions were raised about how the money for the conference was spent. See:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200403150121.html

She then appointed her friend as the Director of KNH - Dr Florence Musau - Musau was hounded out of office for corruption around 2005 but in 2009 Ngilu appointed her a director of the National Water Conservation and Pipeline Corporation. See:

http://www.kenyalaw.org/..._gazette.php?title=3239


...NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL IMPUNITY!!! ANYONE, ANYONE, WHOEVER IT IS, THAT CAUSED THE SPILLING ON INNOCENT BLOOD IN THE PEV WILL DEFINITELY PAY FOR IT...WHETHER BY PLANE CRASHES, CAR ACCIDENTS, BULLETS FROM DEJECTED COPS, BULLETS FROM MUNGIKS, KACC & THE COURTS, CENSOR BY PARLIAMENT, BLOOD CLOTS FROM HEAD INJURIES, MAKABURI THEFT, ROCKS FALLING FROM THE BLUE SKY OR EVEN OCAMPO..... MUNGU SI ADHUMANI!!!


we invoke wraths upon ourselves then brash them off as mere happenings...
or you think there is a side without blood on its hands.. including you and me...?

i suppose you were in church interceeding when PEV's were happening
alikujia
#46 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 1:46:02 PM
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RAO is better off not commenting in everything/anything at hand, Bifwoli once put it to him crudely. Actually his permanent travels has helped him avoid getting entangled in issues all the time. Imagine if he were around when the ligale thing was happening-his office would have published the gazette, himself! -- ok just kidding.

By the way what is the wisdom of in not having a deputy for the AG?. Even in the new constitution, I dont think the AG has a deputy.
extrablessed
#47 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 1:53:10 PM
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...YOU CAN BE SURE I WAS ON MY KNEES ALL THE TIME, UNTIL I "SAW A SMALL CLOUD" OF PEACE IN THE DISTANCE...
alikujia
#48 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 1:55:01 PM
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What I have read so far are just some small contracts from the water companies for ngilu's relatives - or have i missed it?.
To me I think it is just possible for relatives to do many small things using your name without you knowing. OK, even this does not absolve one.

But What Iam saying is: are the relatives linked to the dam construction construction contracts - the hundreds of millions?
radio
#49 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 2:12:05 PM
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alikujia wrote:
What I have read so far are just some small contracts from the water companies for ngilu's relatives - or have i missed it?.
To me I think it is just possible for relatives to do many small things using your name without you knowing. OK, even this does not absolve one.

But What Iam saying is: are the relatives linked to the dam construction construction contracts - the hundreds of millions?


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Corruption is corruption is corruption!!! Whether it is a hundred bob or hundreds of millions. This is the only way we can win this war!
callaspade
#50 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 2:31:27 PM
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alikujia wrote:
What I have read so far are just some small contracts from the water companies for ngilu's relatives - or have i missed it?.
To me I think it is just possible for relatives to do many small things using your name without you knowing. OK, even this does not absolve one.

But What Iam saying is: are the relatives linked to the dam construction construction contracts - the hundreds of millions?


....what is small to you? 2 million,10,30 50???
..common,corruption is corruption.it does not matter on the amount.even the cop who receives 50 bob delivers the trophy for the corruption index.
......its amazing how people will come to charities defense because of their ethnic affiliation or political alignment.
....when will we grow out of this ??
...even a nursery school kid can clearly see the mess.this is impunity !
...we have to slay the dragon while the momentum is there.
..Some in this forum are choosing to wear their kid gloves when it comes to "one of their own"
extrablessed
#51 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 2:50:29 PM
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alikujia wrote:
What I have read so far are just some small contracts from the water companies for ngilu's relatives - or have i missed it?.
To me I think it is just possible for relatives to do many small things using your name without you knowing. OK, even this does not absolve one.

But What Iam saying is: are the relatives linked to the dam construction construction contracts - the hundreds of millions?


...YES, YOU HAVE MISSED SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS!!! FILES OF ALL THE MAJOR CONTRACTORS (KSH BILLIONS) MENTIONED IN THE SCANDLE HAVE DISAPPEARED AND WEBSITES CLOSED!!! THERE IS FEAR THE NAMES OF OWNERS/DIRECTORS ARE BEING AMENDED...

"...But the Sunday Nation failed to trace records of some of the companies that have been adversely mentioned in the Water ministry tenders.

They include G.L. Williams, Nthenca Enterprises, Surf Ways and Afri Trade Enterprises. Absence of the companies’ records could point to the fact that their documentation had been tempered with and files lost".
Quote: Daily Nation


http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Family%20deep%20in%20Ngilu%20troubled%20waters/-/1064/1057406/-/tvjccdz/-/index.html


"Si mimi iko sema iko nyuma ya mama rainbow? Tutahakikisha hiyo porojo haipati yeye..! Kweli au rongo?... Hiyo kijana naletea yeye nyokonyoko tajua sisi ni nani...Sisi taweka jina yake kwa hiyo kampuni yote yeye nasema ni ya mama rainbow...Kweli au rongo?"

Please read the article story in the papers...
Fundaah
#52 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 2:59:30 PM
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alikujia wrote:
What I have read so far are just some small contracts from the water companies for ngilu's relatives - or have i missed it?.
To me I think it is just possible for relatives to do many small things using your name without you knowing. OK, even this does not absolve one.

But What Iam saying is: are the relatives linked to the dam construction construction contracts - the hundreds of millions?


Im NOT with you on this one....the only person you can be on Ngilus side is the said relatives.....ITS MY TAXES MEN .....
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
Ms Mkenya
#53 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 4:16:47 PM
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Mpenzi wrote:
How fast we forget!

Ngilu has a very good track record of corruption.

Ngilu, as Minister for Health, is the one who got her daughter's NGO to organise a govt-sponsored AIDS conference in 2003 - questions were raised about how the money for the conference was spent. See:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200403150121.html

She then appointed her friend as the Director of KNH - Dr Florence Musau - Musau was hounded out of office for corruption around 2005 but in 2009 Ngilu appointed her a director of the National Water Conservation and Pipeline Corporation. See:

http://www.kenyalaw.org/..._gazette.php?title=3239

@ Mpenzi, thanks for the link. I hope she has already resigned..
By the way, the parliamnetary committee cannot do anything about those files that have gone mising at the registrar of companies? Surely Kenya saa zingine!!! The files must be so incriminating!!!
Going by the millions lost in health... i have a feeling we have lost much more than the media knows...
....above all, to stand.
sihingwa
#54 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 4:18:28 PM
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Exit Ngilu...leave it to PLO, the courts ...who is the next target to 'roast' and shame in puplic ? I hope the public, that is ever so forgetful of the past misdeed wont lose target of 'eliminating' corrupion
Seeders
#55 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 5:25:38 PM
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eerrr...so according to ngilurology, if she sinks 200 government sanctioned boreholes in her 1/4 acre backyard (hey, this is kenya. anything is possible if you believe) there is no problem as long as she was dying of thirst hata kama there are millions of other kenyans in other parts of the country that have no access to maji siyo?
famooz
#56 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 6:20:52 PM
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Does anyone know why she is still in office? Or she will go Wetangula way?
simonkabz
#57 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 7:21:17 PM
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This scandal has taught us one very important aspect of life: SHARING!!!! Had Ngilu shared the opportunities with her ASS., I mean ASS MIN, she could in all likelihood be basking in glory with everyone happy n on her side. She chose to be selfish, in fact I suspect her deep rooted hatred for qyuks guided her to self destruction. The ignomy that has befallen this tribal, nepote, selfish sister of ours should be complemented with total oblivion.......we should be talking of "down memory lane with...." Ngilu, tamaa iliua fisi! NB, this post is biased coz Im no fan of the said lady n got no apologies whatsoever. Serves her right.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
kyt
#58 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 7:48:06 PM
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ngilu wah wah hata kama, vau ni muno!(that is too much)!
LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
kadonye
#59 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:55:13 AM
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Ngilu should resign to save ODM and Raila's image.The latest evidence is too incriminating.If I was Raila, I would ask her to 'step aside' to allow 4 'investigations'.If she faced a motion in parliament and the orange defended her, they would lose the little credibility remaining
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
famooz
#60 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:19:42 AM
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kadonye wrote:
Ngilu should resign to save ODM and Raila's image.The latest evidence is too incriminating.If I was Raila, I would ask her to 'step aside' to allow 4 'investigations'.If she faced a motion in parliament and the orange defended her, they would lose the little credibility remaining



@ Kadonye,i think someone should move a motion of no confidence,then lets see what happens. We will know if we are fighting any corruption ,nepotism etc or it is just lip service.
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