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.......... wamechoka kumolest w/out condom...

the pope was very clear. condoms may be used in specefic cases to prevent transmittion of HIV/AIDS. not the this of family planning. this means that as a church nothing has changed (doctrinally)

Wacha generalization.....

I've never understood why they are opposed to use of condoms by married couples

but why use it if you are married. in tha church's view people should be faithfull.
when these laws were being made HIV was not yet invented. get this right before we comment on this please.

@sober,what about family planning?But @my 2 cents has answered my querry

Yeah, thats right. According to this church sex between married couples is for the sole purpose of producing children, therefore do not hinder this process by using a condom.

Guys I really think we are not seeing through the Catholic stand point. And from a theological perspective, I believe they are most accurate and bold on their stand. I believe that at the core of their standpoint is the belief that God is sovereign and is the sole giver and taker of life. Even scientifically, a woman will not concieve everytime she has sex. It is only in a given season and even then, the chances (at her highest peak) are only about 2%. When you consider the controls that mother nature has invested in humans, you will realise that a woman does not conceive by chance.. In the small window of opportunity to conceive, there is an option of self control which is very biblical actually.

The whole concept of Birth control is actually an attempt by man in, his quest to lack self control, to then seek to control the outcome of his sin.In that way, man wants to determine when to get a kid and even what type of kid.( boy/ girl)

My arguement therefore is that the other bible teachers have failed to teach the whole truth about christianity ( especially as it relates to sex and procreation) and have preffered to deal with issues of money and success and one wife. The true christianity is realising that GOD is sovereign and you are but a piece in his jigsaw.... not trying to play God on some elements while denying others.

P.s I am not Catholic but I have been with them in these matters. What they teach is self control ( which includes abstinence)and to just be human and not half man and half God.

Tell me where it says in the bible man should not use condoms???? The church stance is a creation of the church and not backed by the word of God.

The catholic church taking such a position on condoms is very naive while their congregation is continuing to die because the church is against condoms. This virus will continue to ravage africans (Please dont let anyone lie to you that we are more promiscuous ...... every race and community cheats) as the church idly stands by and says please be moral people. This is a racist stance and the church is gladly promoting it. HIV is not common here because we are immoral HIV is more common here because it has its origins in the Forest in congo!


Condoms are not abortificient because the unlike some hormonal methods of family planning condoms never allow foetus to form in the first place. The church stance that this method is commiting abortion is also false.

Wear a condom Jesus will forgive you if you ask for forgiveness.