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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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I don't get what the big deal is. Surely how many constituencies can you have in Central? Should we divide constituencies using acres? I think this Ligale team has done a commendable job. What's your view? BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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2012 - Please answer just 2 of the many querries being raised? 1. Why were Langata and Westlands divided into 2 yet Dagoretti with a similar population was not? 2. Why was Vihiga (with a population of about 90,000) divided into 2 yet some others with higher population were not???? (hint hint - where does Ligale come from )
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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@Mpenzi Is it about population or representation and distribution of resources? Population cannot be the only determinant as it is not a constant. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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@2012, I have screamed a million times here that parliament's main role is REPRESENTATION.Thus population must be the main criterion.Thus the issue Beth was raising about Dagoretti vis a vis Lang'ata and Westlands holds weight What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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hear are the 2009 census results , You can comment from an informed point of view http://www.knbs.or.ke/Ce...ults/KNBS%20Brochure.pdfpunda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Ligale playing politics......idiot! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Mpenzi wrote:2012 - Please answer just 2 of the many querries being raised? 1. Why were Langata and Westlands divided into 2 yet Dagoretti with a similar population was not? 2. Why was Vihiga (with a population of about 90,000) divided into 2 yet some others with higher population were not???? (hint hint - where does Ligale come from ) do not mislead people. population alone means nothing. talk of population density to bring aut the picture of how concentrated people are. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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Sober wrote:Mpenzi wrote:2012 - Please answer just 2 of the many querries being raised? 1. Why were Langata and Westlands divided into 2 yet Dagoretti with a similar population was not? 2. Why was Vihiga (with a population of about 90,000) divided into 2 yet some others with higher population were not???? (hint hint - where does Ligale come from ) do not mislead people. population alone means nothing. talk of population density to bring aut the picture of how concentrated people are. Sober - ok, please enlighten us about pop densities in Dagoretti, Westlands, Langata and Vihiga and the consequent allocation of constituencies.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/4/2008 Posts: 1,289 Location: Nairobi
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Only in Kenya do people agree on a formula and then go ahead to ignore it on implementation. It was agreed that constituencies with small populations will be protected and this was to pacify the arid and semi arid areas. It also turns out that Nyeri County was favoured by Moi and is overrepresented. Such a scenarioas the argument goes is working to the under represented Kiambu County. Height of impunity is when someone gives themselves powers that they do not pocess. If you agree on something, bite the bullet and live with it. The exercise is supposed to make everyone happy but some people want to take advantage of it.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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FundamentAli wrote:Only in Kenya do people agree on a formula and then go ahead to ignore it on implementation. It was agreed that constituencies with small populations will be protected and this was to pacify the arid and semi arid areas. It also turns out that Nyeri County was favoured by Moi and is overrepresented. Such a scenarioas the argument goes is working to the under represented Kiambu County. Height of impunity is when someone gives themselves powers that they do not pocess. If you agree on something, bite the bullet and live with it. The exercise is supposed to make everyone happy but some people want to take advantage of it. All well what you say though could you provide evidence as regards the alleged favouritism and "over-representation" of the Nyeri County - and Moi favoured this county? - this is news indeed!. And could answer the questions above about Dagoretti, Westlands, Langata and Vihiga.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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Sober wrote: do not mislead people. population alone means nothing. talk of population density to bring aut the picture of how concentrated people are.
What do you mean?where does density come in when we're choosing representatives?Democracy is simple arithmetic: 1 man, 1 vote What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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Njung'e wrote:Ligale playing politics......idiot! Sure he is really an idiot...now he has managed to halt the good momentum that was picking up on many fronts!!! ABK. When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@King, This are the kind of people who do not wish to be remembered when they die.......they are so useless.What is difficulty in playing and getting it right first time? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/17/2009 Posts: 201
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@Gmg, Thanks for the link........This is SHAME and a total waste of public funds.This idiot should be made to pay.....and i hope those Mpigs who were making noise will think twice now. I hope Andrew reads this; Isn't it a shame that Ligale's work can't measure to that of his sons - Issack Hassan and Mohammed Abdikadir - who have executed their responsibilities with unique, shining exemplary dignity and diligence.Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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@ Guka , and when he dies you will see a person saying 'nation mourns the death of so & so ' After doing some analysis, I think Ligale was unfair to many Kenyans. I'm happy my constituency was split into two though. punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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kadonye wrote:Sober wrote: do not mislead people. population alone means nothing. talk of population density to bring aut the picture of how concentrated people are.
What do you mean?where does density come in when we're choosing representatives?Democracy is simple arithmetic: 1 man, 1 vote Surely kadonye.....no one is disputing that only 1 man/woman 1 vote, but it is more than just voting. You can have all the mpigs you want in your constituency, even 20 of them. But this thing is about CDF. and its weighted distribution methods. Yeah, especially that. Only that.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2007 Posts: 675
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Haiya.... Reading that article shows clearly why the IBRC just totally messed up. Shame! Form is temporary, class is permanent
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2009 Posts: 2,863
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The most annoying thing is that this geriatric never expected kenyans to see through his machinations. IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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anasazi wrote:Haiya....
Reading that article shows clearly why the IBRC just totally messed up. Shame! My sixth sense was right , anything that Moi supports immediately is never good for the country. He supported the new constituencies and I was suspicious . http://m.wazua.co.ke/for...spx?g=posts&m=121534punda amecheka
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