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2012 political risk
ngapat
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:18:15 PM
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The market has picked and the bull run witnessed in 2006 seems to have slowly returned.we are now nearing elections which have proved to be potentially risky to investments. Is it time to apply brakes to investing and watch how politics will unfold? The hague issue could be a time bomb that can cause panic to investments if people implicated decide to incite their people and cause chaos


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#2 Posted : Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:53:40 PM
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ngapat wrote:
The market has picked and the bull run witnessed in 2006 seems to have slowly returned.we are now nearing elections which have proved to be potentially risky to investments. Is it time to apply brakes to investing and watch how politics will unfold? The hague issue could be a time bomb that can cause panic to investments if people implicated decide to incite their people and cause chaos


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Nothing will happen in 2012...

Its my experience that a very bad experience leaves a very bad taste in people's mouths so something like the P.E.V is impossible to forget and makes it hard to believe there will be a peaceful election... But believe me there will be nothing in 2012
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VituVingiSana
#3 Posted : Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:57:55 PM
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ngapat wrote:
The market has picked and the bull run witnessed in 2006 seems to have slowly returned.we are now nearing elections which have proved to be potentially risky to investments. Is it time to apply brakes to investing and watch how politics will unfold? The hague issue could be a time bomb that can cause panic to investments if people implicated decide to incite their people and cause chaos Sad
Sad but true! The 'masses' are a bunch of idiots who will follow their tribal chieftains no matter what!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
PKoli
#4 Posted : Sunday, November 14, 2010 11:38:32 PM
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Maybe we have learnt some lessons following last election's and the fact that some people could be followed. Me thinks future elections will be more peacefull than past elections
VituVingiSana
#5 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 12:13:27 AM
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PKoli wrote:
Maybe we have learnt some lessons following last election's and the fact that some people could be followed. Me thinks future elections will be more peacefull than past elections
More peaceful? Yes. Peaceful? No. IMHO, there will be regional outbreaks of violence...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ngapat
#6 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 12:27:52 AM
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@pkoli, you will be suprised how quickly people forget. As VVs says, lots of people will still follow their chieftains no matter what
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Seles83
#7 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 1:19:21 AM
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Kenya is one of the most unequal societies in the world; it is an uphill task to preach peace and tranquillity to empty stomachs. For a community to grow and mature there must be a few commonalities…equal access to information and opportunities.

For a holistic view of Kenya life….compare the life of kids brought up Magadi, Turkana, Runda, Kibera and Donholm….the bitter reality that these kids will rarely meet same roof and conditions…This is one biggest evils of pure capitalism

As one of the leading of leading economist once said: The Wall Street can’t continue to boom while the Main Street suffers…
More monies, more problems...
youcan'tstopusnow
#8 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 9:20:30 AM
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Capitalism is the best system around
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#9 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34:44 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Capitalism is the best system around
All others have essentially flunked... [pls not religious nutcases telling me about god's kingdom. Among the worst rulers tend to be religious nuts]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
kasheshe
#10 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 9:43:50 AM
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My two cents....With the new constitutional dispensation, there are too many positions regionally to keep the kingpins busy. Senators, Governors etc. The electoral Institutions with the exception of IIBRC are more credible and better managed. I think we will have a more peaceful 2012.
Wa_ithaka
#11 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 9:44:23 AM
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Capitalism has failed spectacularly. The best system is a homegrown solution that is built to suit the country.

2012 will be tense because a majority of us are tribalists rather than Kenyans.
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#12 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 9:48:36 AM
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even if 'nothing will happen' in 2012 you cant expect the current growth at the bourse to continue. elections mean a change in the investment environment and hence the long term investors will be watching. me too, although right now am in.
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#13 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 10:07:38 AM
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I don't think we'll hav violence in 2012.But what we did in 07/08 is still fresh in investors' minds.We're like a repentant crook just released from jail:people still can't trust us
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#14 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 12:53:15 PM
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Who fears to invest when a preacher says jesus christ is soon coming?african politics is so dirty and black like the african himself and no investor feels comfortable.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 1:01:14 PM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
Capitalism has failed spectacularly. The best system is a homegrown solution that is built to suit the country.

2012 will be tense because a majority of us are tribalists rather than Kenyans.
IMHO, nonsense... which home-grown solution?

Capitalism works but for the folks who water it down. It is NOT a system for the weak-hearted or lazy... Neither is it perfect but the best of the ones I know...

Please tell me more about your so-called 'home-grown system/solution'...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Njung'e
#16 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 1:07:29 PM
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Cash is King in times of uncertainty they say....A good thing though.when the herd takes off for the high grounds,pick cheap.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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#17 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 1:33:37 PM
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The optimism that I felt in January is waning. I have stopped investing and am now doing money market. Even though i don't expect violence, I think the pace of reforms will slow down. 2012 is promising to be the most expensive elections ever and I just want to remain liquid. Either way 2012 is bound to produce the greatest shift in leadership
mlennyma
#18 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 3:21:21 PM
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Mid 2011 upto august would be the climax of nse if all factors remain constant and this will be the best time to get as liquid as posible and wait for the numerous opportunities to be created by election fears.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mlennyma
#19 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 3:27:40 PM
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Marangi has visited the nse today painting red colour all over.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
PKoli
#20 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2010 4:16:46 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Marangi has visited the nse today painting red colour all over.


This is typical of Mondays. I think tomorrow we might see some bit of activities. The volunes were also huge. The technical analysts can tell us what this means
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