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VituVingiSana
#171 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:35:33 PM
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pkmm wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]On 24 Feb 2010...

Highest Gainers: (agricultural/plantations list deleted)

There is definitely something going on here...[/quote

@vvs, Do you truely want to tell us YOU cannot figure out what is going on here ... it's such a simple analysis that I'll let you figure it out ALL by yourself ... you have a great starting point that these are plantations ;)
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The comments are from FEB 2010... when the rally had just started...

Since then I have bought into Kakuzi, Williamson, Kapchorua...
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pkmm
#172 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:56:01 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=pkmm][quote=VituVingiSana]On 24 Feb 2010...


The comments are from FEB 2010... when the rally had just started...

Since then I have bought into Kakuzi, Williamson, Kapchorua...


YOU got it! the issue here is LAND VALUE, more so, those plantations within nrb/large metros, the land is more valuable than the crop ... Where is hon Orengo when we need him ... land speculation getting out of control.

This is he best n cheapest way to own land IMO

BTW VVS, did you know Kapchorua is wholly owned by Williamson ...

Question? what change if any with these plantations in regards to Counties?
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VituVingiSana
#173 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 12:35:13 AM
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pkmm wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=pkmm][quote=VituVingiSana]On 24 Feb 2010...


The comments are from FEB 2010... when the rally had just started...

Since then I have bought into Kakuzi, Williamson, Kapchorua...


YOU got it! the issue here is LAND VALUE, more so, those plantations within nrb/large metros, the land is more valuable than the crop ... Where is hon Orengo when we need him ... land speculation getting out of control.

This is he best n cheapest way to own land IMO

BTW VVS, did you know Kapchorua is wholly owned by Williamson ...

Question? what change if any with these plantations in regards to Counties?


1) Let those who want to speculate do so... As long as it is not illegal! What's your problem here? This is not illegally grabbed land.

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?

3) None of the plantations (listed firms) are within Nairobi. The closest would be Eagaads but that is in Kiambu/Ruiru.

4) I did not buy into these for land. That is a side benefit. I bought into them for the Tea.
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guru267
#174 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:25:02 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them
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VituVingiSana
#175 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:34:12 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them
Facts not opinions matter in such a case... This is not subjective but objective...

If you can provide proof that Williamson owns 100% of Kapchorua... I will eat my hat!
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cnn
#176 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:34:45 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them

@guru,would you buy Kapchorua shares today if you wished?. Would Williamson still own 100% of Kapchorua then?.
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guru267
#177 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:41:04 AM
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cnn wrote:
guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them

@guru,would you buy Kapchorua shares today if you wished?. Would Williamson still own 100% of Kapchorua then?.


@cnn thats some nice logic right there Laughing out loudly I dont know what I was thinkin d'oh!

But williamson does own a controlling stake in Kapchorua.. Anyone care to argue with that???
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VituVingiSana
#178 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:44:40 AM
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guru267 wrote:
cnn wrote:
guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them

@guru,would you buy Kapchorua shares today if you wished?. Would Williamson still own 100% of Kapchorua then?.

@cnn thats some nice logic right there Laughing out loudly I dont know what I was thinkin d'oh!

But williamson does own a controlling stake in Kapchorua.. Anyone care to argue with that?

WTK owns 36% of Kapchorua directly. Perhaps more indirectly. So yes, WTK controls Kapchorua but that wasn't the original statement/assertion...

I own Kapchorua shares so I knew it was not 100%...
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cnn
#179 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:45:57 AM
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@guru,by 31st March 2010 WTK owned 39.56% of Kapchorua.
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guru267
#180 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:48:45 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

I own Kapchorua shares so I knew it was not 100%...


It was really daft of me to think that!!!! i think it was early morning blues... smile
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