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ProverB
#161 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:10:50 AM
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newfarer wrote:

Kakuzi: [color=green]VWAP = 39.75 (+7.43%) on 27.10.2010 87.5

125% increase in 10 months

Kakuzi Must ve doing very well .

VVS you are a genious


pliz note the bulk of "125%" happened within a span of 5 weeks between 4th Feb and March 10th..actually 100%..from 34 to 78

also note it was within that period that full year results of Kakuzi were anticipated to be released for year ending Dec 2009.. subsequently the results confirmed the stock had been previously very much under valued.. since that time the stock has oscillated between 78-90 range.. and is likely to remain at this range until same time cycle next year..i.e. Feb-March 2011..

same arguments goes for most stocks.. 6 week window around corporate announcements the prices either rocket or slump... case in point..Stanchart, DTK, NIC, Coop blah blah blah..
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the deal
#162 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:23:00 AM
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I say hold this suckers for SPECULATIVE purpose only...reason being their Low PE's...the bubble is on it's way...this will be followed by the property bubble...
cnn
#163 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:36:40 AM
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the deal wrote:
I say hold this suckers for SPECULATIVE purpose only...reason being their Low PE's...the bubble is on it's way...this will be followed by the property bubble...

@the deal,i do remember you on another thread,....some shareholders and bloodied noses.Who is laughing now?.Let us talk Williamson 45 days from now.
the deal
#164 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:59:10 AM
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cnn wrote:
the deal wrote:
I say hold this suckers for SPECULATIVE purpose only...reason being their Low PE's...the bubble is on it's way...this will be followed by the property bubble...

@the deal,i do remember you on another thread,....some shareholders and bloodied noses.Who is laughing now?.Let us talk Williamson 45 days from now.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly errr WTK are they going to pay a dividend? if not prepare for the wrath of irate shareholders..errr u reffering to KK well u can't have it all...although profit takers might let me in if i'm interested...
guru267
#165 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:46:13 PM
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the deal wrote:
cnn wrote:
the deal wrote:
I say hold this suckers for SPECULATIVE purpose only...reason being their Low PE's...the bubble is on it's way...this will be followed by the property bubble...

@the deal,i do remember you on another thread,....some shareholders and bloodied noses.Who is laughing now?.Let us talk Williamson 45 days from now.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly errr WTK are they going to pay a dividend? if not prepare for the wrath of irate shareholders..errr u reffering to KK well u can't have it all...although profit takers might let me in if i'm interested...


@the deal I'm also stocking up on KK if it falls back below 10bob and i advise everyone to do the same....

do you know what will happen if the FED in the US announces a $800billion-$1 trillion stimulus package????

The dollar collapses, oil spikes and KK laughs all the way to the bank.... Laughing out loudly

Though this scenario would be terrible for Kakuzi.... Sad Pray
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#166 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:57:17 PM
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atwoli is conning the Tea Pickers
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/6c64mdz/-/index.html

The fact is that Firms need to be more efficient to counter competition. Kenya's tea faces threats from other producers & the plantations need to be more efficient.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#167 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:47:40 PM
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Interesting strategy the firms are using to counter the strikes i.e. evictions and disconnection of water and electricity supply
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guru267
#168 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:17:50 PM
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I tried to get in to Kakuzi today but failed... Sorry to anyone planning to get in because starting tomorrow i'm bidding up the price above 90 Laughing out loudly
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
youcan'tstopusnow
#169 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:22:52 PM
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guru, I thought you got enough between 82-85? While you're at it, could you be a darling and bid up KCB, DTB, NIC, Sasini,etc toosmile
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pkmm
#170 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:42:35 PM
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[quote=VituVingiSana]On 24 Feb 2010...

Highest Gainers: (agricultural/plantations list deleted)

There is definitely something going on here...[/quote

@vvs, Do you truely want to tell us YOU cannot figure out what is going on here ... it's such a simple analysis that I'll let you figure it out ALL by yourself ... you have a great starting point that these are plantations ;)

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VituVingiSana
#171 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:35:33 PM
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pkmm wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]On 24 Feb 2010...

Highest Gainers: (agricultural/plantations list deleted)

There is definitely something going on here...[/quote

@vvs, Do you truely want to tell us YOU cannot figure out what is going on here ... it's such a simple analysis that I'll let you figure it out ALL by yourself ... you have a great starting point that these are plantations ;)
PM

The comments are from FEB 2010... when the rally had just started...

Since then I have bought into Kakuzi, Williamson, Kapchorua...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
pkmm
#172 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:56:01 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=pkmm][quote=VituVingiSana]On 24 Feb 2010...


The comments are from FEB 2010... when the rally had just started...

Since then I have bought into Kakuzi, Williamson, Kapchorua...


YOU got it! the issue here is LAND VALUE, more so, those plantations within nrb/large metros, the land is more valuable than the crop ... Where is hon Orengo when we need him ... land speculation getting out of control.

This is he best n cheapest way to own land IMO

BTW VVS, did you know Kapchorua is wholly owned by Williamson ...

Question? what change if any with these plantations in regards to Counties?
VituVingiSana
#173 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 12:35:13 AM
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pkmm wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=pkmm][quote=VituVingiSana]On 24 Feb 2010...


The comments are from FEB 2010... when the rally had just started...

Since then I have bought into Kakuzi, Williamson, Kapchorua...


YOU got it! the issue here is LAND VALUE, more so, those plantations within nrb/large metros, the land is more valuable than the crop ... Where is hon Orengo when we need him ... land speculation getting out of control.

This is he best n cheapest way to own land IMO

BTW VVS, did you know Kapchorua is wholly owned by Williamson ...

Question? what change if any with these plantations in regards to Counties?


1) Let those who want to speculate do so... As long as it is not illegal! What's your problem here? This is not illegally grabbed land.

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?

3) None of the plantations (listed firms) are within Nairobi. The closest would be Eagaads but that is in Kiambu/Ruiru.

4) I did not buy into these for land. That is a side benefit. I bought into them for the Tea.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#174 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:25:02 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them
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VituVingiSana
#175 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:34:12 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them
Facts not opinions matter in such a case... This is not subjective but objective...

If you can provide proof that Williamson owns 100% of Kapchorua... I will eat my hat!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
cnn
#176 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:34:45 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them

@guru,would you buy Kapchorua shares today if you wished?. Would Williamson still own 100% of Kapchorua then?.
guru267
#177 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:41:04 AM
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cnn wrote:
guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them

@guru,would you buy Kapchorua shares today if you wished?. Would Williamson still own 100% of Kapchorua then?.


@cnn thats some nice logic right there Laughing out loudly I dont know what I was thinkin d'oh!

But williamson does own a controlling stake in Kapchorua.. Anyone care to argue with that???
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VituVingiSana
#178 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:44:40 AM
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guru267 wrote:
cnn wrote:
guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

2) Kapchorua is not 100% owned by Williamson. Where do you get your info?


@VVS I agree with @pkmm I am of the opinion that Kapchorua is 100% owned by williamson so there is no point of owning the both of them

@guru,would you buy Kapchorua shares today if you wished?. Would Williamson still own 100% of Kapchorua then?.

@cnn thats some nice logic right there Laughing out loudly I dont know what I was thinkin d'oh!

But williamson does own a controlling stake in Kapchorua.. Anyone care to argue with that?

WTK owns 36% of Kapchorua directly. Perhaps more indirectly. So yes, WTK controls Kapchorua but that wasn't the original statement/assertion...

I own Kapchorua shares so I knew it was not 100%...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
cnn
#179 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:45:57 AM
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@guru,by 31st March 2010 WTK owned 39.56% of Kapchorua.
guru267
#180 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:48:45 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

I own Kapchorua shares so I knew it was not 100%...


It was really daft of me to think that!!!! i think it was early morning blues... smile
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