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PKoli
#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:12:18 PM
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Mkimwa wrote:
I have been looking for these shares for sometime now, na sijapata.

How do i acquire using this window? I am not a shareholder yet, lakini am a member of a sacco..


The offer will be to existing shareholders and new members, as long as you belong to a Sacco
Kalameni
#22 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:29:40 PM
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Thanks for the info,i don't have any whatsoever,i just need 1000
shares,hope new shareholders won't be locked out.
PKoli
#23 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:45:08 PM
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Kalameni wrote:
Thanks for the info,i don't have any whatsoever,i just need 1000
shares,hope new shareholders won't be locked out.


CiC have made a formal announcement to Brokers. "The Company shall close the Shares Register for 30 days commencing 26th October 2010 up to 25th November 2010. The Rights Issue shall be opened up during this period for our members to participate."

So pals, get set
PKoli
#24 Posted : Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:44:00 PM
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@Sasha

Coop bank has increased its stake to 21% to become the single largest shareholder!If Coop bank has faith in this company, then you should. I am sure you will make money in the OTC tarding without having to wait for three years.
Bugatti
#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:14:28 PM
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Sasha-Co-Op bank spent 130 Mio yesterday to increase its shareholding in CIC.Are the shares part of the additional issued by CIC recently or whats up?If its so, i will consider they have already taken away 4,814,841 shares ie (130,000000/27 per share to arrive at the figure ama?
e_kijana
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:26:15 PM
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They announced yesterday, but they purchased this well before the EGM. So they Purchased at 22.50/= and now should take up the FULL rights at 27/= in order to maintain the same % which they so happily announced
TUPAC
#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:26:34 PM
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i wonder whether us guys who are non members will be given a chance to buy the shares. coz if its a rights issue then how will non members get these shares?
...things fall apart...the centre cannot hold..mere anarchy is loosed upon the world...w b yeats
PKoli
#28 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:31:45 PM
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TUPAC wrote:
i wonder whether us guys who are non members will be given a chance to buy the shares. coz if its a rights issue then how will non members get these shares?


You all need to be a sacco member to participate. There will be rights for existing members and other shares for sacco members who do not currently have cic shares.
TUPAC
#29 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:53:56 PM
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@koli
since you seem conversant with this issue when do we expect the time table for the rights? and whats the likely price for the members and non members respectively?
...things fall apart...the centre cannot hold..mere anarchy is loosed upon the world...w b yeats
PKoli
#30 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:12:14 PM
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TUPAC wrote:
@koli
since you seem conversant with this issue when do we expect the time table for the rights? and whats the likely price for the members and non members respectively?


I hear the timetable should be out by end of this week. The price will 27 bob a piece for both shareholders and new members.
Bugatti
#31 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:12:59 PM
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Tupac=In tommorow's Daily Nation and Standard Newspapers they will announce on the timetable.anyway it runs from early 20's November till end of 1st week of December.Both The share price will be 27 bob for rights issue and other shares.From reliable souce
TUPAC
#32 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:18:20 PM
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thanks @buggati and@koli.
let me plan for the cash now.
...things fall apart...the centre cannot hold..mere anarchy is loosed upon the world...w b yeats
PKoli
#33 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:30:51 PM
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TUPAC wrote:
thanks @buggati and@koli.
let me plan for the cash now.


Yeah, I need to get cash for my rights and additional rights
Chaka
#34 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:51:49 PM
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@Pkoli,
How will one prove that they are a sacco member?
PKoli
#35 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:57:58 PM
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Chaka wrote:
@Pkoli,
How will one prove that they are a sacco member?


There are forms you fill, signed and stamped by Sacco officials
Bugatti
#36 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:10:29 PM
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@Chaka=
register now with any Sacco and pay like 1K contribution to prove that you are a member.Its mandatory for Saccos to stamp for you the share forms and also you will need to include your Sacco reg number as the form.This is basically for audit purpose which ensures compliency as a Sacco member
Sasha
#37 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:10:50 PM
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@Bugatti: CIC has a share capital of Kshs 600 million. The total issued is about Kshs 430 million. They issued the outstanding shares to Coop Bank to top up their share capital to Kshs 600 million. As it stands, CIC still have shares worth Kshs 40 million which have not been issued. Like e-kijana says, this deal was concluded more than 4 months ago and they just completed the documentation a few days ago.

@PKoli: I already had this info when I was buying and I'm still buying but only at a reasonable price. I know I will make money OTC but I don't want to hold it too long. I understand spanners are being thrown in the works, and the listing may take even longer. Lets hope the guys from Coop Bank joining the Board will help speed up the listing.

The books are closing tomorrow so unless you can engineer a buy before close of business tomorrow, too bad!
Bugatti
#38 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:41:58 PM
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@Sasha=Thankx for the info.

@PKoli=Why do you say listing might take longer?Pls lemmi know since i am buying to hold till 2013!Also OTC when do you see it reaching 50 bob?
Finally i think it will be wise for Co-op to replance some directors in CIC who are already toooo Old
PKoli
#39 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:21:14 PM
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Sasha wrote:
@Bugatti: CIC has a share capital of Kshs 600 million. The total issued is about Kshs 430 million. They issued the outstanding shares to Coop Bank to top up their share capital to Kshs 600 million. As it stands, CIC still have shares worth Kshs 40 million which have not been issued. Like e-kijana says, this deal was concluded more than 4 months ago and they just completed the documentation a few days ago.

@PKoli: I already had this info when I was buying and I'm still buying but only at a reasonable price. I know I will make money OTC but I don't want to hold it too long. I understand spanners are being thrown in the works, and the listing may take even longer. Lets hope the guys from Coop Bank joining the Board will help speed up the listing.

The books are closing tomorrow so unless you can engineer a buy before close of business tomorrow, too bad!


@Sasha & Bugatti,

I think it is a wise decision to continue buying the shares since they will unclock their values soon. I am sure to achieve this they will be forced to list and me thinks this may come soner than later. The same way Sacco societies forced Coop bank to list, they and now the big brother Coop bank will force CiC to list.

CIC has received a lot of coverage and visibility and this will make their OTC shares to trade much more than before.

I think as the Company gets serious shareholders, there will be better corporate governance in CIC. If there are any guys throwing spanners, I feel they will not succeed.
2012
#40 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:51:06 PM
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I called Dyer & Blair to enquire but as usual only one guy knows about cic and yap! you guessed it, he's never there.

BBI will solve it
:)
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