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THE IMPACT OF UK SPENDING CUTS AND JOB LOSSES ON KENYAN ECONOMY AND NSE
Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 514 Location: Nairobi
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UK announced a major cut on govt spending since WW2 so as to avoid UK from being bankrupt due to high budget deficit, avoid double dip recession, lower inflation and attract investment. On the flipside about 500,000 jobs will be lost, expenditure on welfare will be further reduced and some towns and businesses that depend on govt expenditure will be run down. I want an opinion from you guys on this with relation to our economy and nse as i think it will have an impact on the tourism and housing sectors... 'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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It's 390,000 jobs to be lost in a span of four years. I dont see how that will affect us because now our main patners is china. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/19/2010 Posts: 49 Location: Nairobi
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some non-listed outsourcing firms with markets their have ALREADY engaged in retrenchment and other cost cutting measures. i will not name them...this $hit is real. if these employees were NSE investors we talking of less liquidity into the NSE. In my view it's negligible.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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govt spending and deficit spending is not the way to grow an economy. it doesn't spur innovation and entrepreneurship it just spurs deals and maintains the status quo. Businesses that depend on govt expenditure are just welfare stations and should just shut down. On the potential impact on our economy and the nse and housing sector...nil. They did the same under Margaret Thatcher was there any major impact? Tourism will grow given that climate change will make the UK winters cold. The housing sector will get impact from diaspora remittances mainly US. Forget the UK look at China
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/5/2007 Posts: 91
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Military exp will be cut hugely...wont ever got to war...this is beautiful. But the nonsense that aid to...guess this!...Russia, China, India will be cut...beats me!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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If the DFID is among the departments being hit with the cuts, the Kenyan economy will be affected, however slightly. I don't see any impact on the NSE specifically though GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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www.businessdailyafrica....78/-/moicsj/-/index.html UK spending cuts to hurt Kenya ’s horticulture sector GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 514 Location: Nairobi
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@Mkonomtupu, remember that our largest agricultural market is Europe the largest chunk taken up by the UK and Germany. As for China they've flourished on cheap labour and exports, this being one of the reasons making them weaken the Yuan so as to ensure that their exports are cheap on the international maket. My point being they export more and most of their citizens work to survive a case in point being the shooting incident in Zambia. 'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,297 Location: Nairobi
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We need to find new markets... How about Japan, Middle East & Russia? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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@erifloss, the edible horticultural produce will still be exported in the same volume given that kenya has the lowest production costs. Its luxury items like flowers that will get hurt. Given all the chemicals they dump in naivasha and the treatment given to flower farm workers especially women it's a good thing to downsize. Let's do something better. Anyway my point was on real estate, whatever the case against China they are now the real estate deal breakers. The Low cost housing technology and efficiency of the contractors (case in point Greatwall apartments) China points to the future UK the past. Think of new markets
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,297 Location: Nairobi
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Ethiopia has lower costs than Kenya. More land. More water [Ironical considering they have worse famines than we do] & cheaper labor Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/6/2008 Posts: 632
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I personally do not see any/much impact the cuts will have on the NSE or Africa at large. The British Overseas aid budget was ring fenced, but i think the Bretton Woods bodies will have to be more accountable for the UK to continue donating to the levels it has been doing. I think the way forward is to encourage small businesses to flourish to reduce the burden of employment in the private sector.Synergies are required and it's time people looked to the so called "unconventional" markets ie: The Iranians are planning a huge housing complex in Mavoko with some businessmen in Kenya and it's such arrangements the the country will probably establish itself firmly in the region. The greatest danger in times of turbulence is not the turbulence; it is to act with yesterday's logic.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,297 Location: Nairobi
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All these investments into Kenya are good BUT when will we start EXPORTING instead of importing??? Look at USA, etc... the local manufacturing has been decimated... We need to export or we will be in trouble too... I hate it when our 80% of our furniture seems to be from Malaysia, etc! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 514 Location: Nairobi
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@Mkonomtupu, true about China on real estate but my question is how long do you think a communist country with a capitalistic tendency will be able to sustain a high growth economic pattern with dwindling resources and a citizenry that is getting to know what their rights in terms of labour are? @Vvs, actually we should be looking at the emerging markets as our targets. That's where the money is, with the rapid economic gowth, their is a fast growing middle class to be satisfied. 'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,297 Location: Nairobi
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@erifloss - I agree... Instead all I see is loans given to business clubs to visit & import from China... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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@erifloss, the dwindling resources is the primary reason why i think china is invading africa, building highways to Sudan, improving the northern corridor by building the eastern bypass. China needs a foothold into africa and i guess kenya presents a perfect spot. China is so excited about a 14th Century voyage to Malindi by one of its admirals and the giraffe diplomacy that followed, IMHO that's the path of imperialism. The chinese govt is also backing its investors to the hilt, with insurance and govt guarantees on investment. This is the kind of imperialism that UK did a century ago before it became bankrupt. So just enjoy the show and tap into the emerging opportunities. Am already in Isiolo trying scouting for opportunities in what will be a resort town in vision 2030. The road the chinese are building is superb all the way to marsabit and beyond. We should really target growing business with african countries there is just so much to import and export. Ethiopia is largely untapped the govt should be sponsoring business clubs to visit these countries
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 514 Location: Nairobi
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@Vvs and @Mkonomtupu, i think as a country apart from Vision 2030, we need new strategies of attracting investment both from locals and foreigners. Take Thailand for instance, its medical tourism is growing by the day creating more employment in both the health and tourism sectors. I was even amazed to learn that the war torn Gaza strip is home to one of the largest manufacturers of ground coffee though they don't even grow coffee. We are a country of a bright people and that's our main resource. 'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/7/2010 Posts: 1,279 Location: nbi
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Cutting 3-500k jobs will almost certainly have an impact on the UK economy. UK is actually an importer of Kenyan goods so there will be some impact. Our economy needs to start looking at two sources of wealth creation. (1)Value addition of our exports. I still don't get how we import raw coffee and tea. (2)Aggressively expanding in the central, east and horn of Africa The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,297 Location: Nairobi
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http://indrus.in/article...hnan_baskaran04823.html
See how Indian firms are exporting Packaged Tea or establishing facilities to improve their margins while in Kenya all we do is export loose tea... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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