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#301 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 10:29:19 AM
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[quote=VituVingiSana] Politicians are going to kill the sugar industry... http://www.nation.co.ke/...8/-/npgnq8/-/index.html[/quote]

Si kwa ubaya but I hope the sugar industry was in central province and we'd be talking a different story. Sugar is still a gold mine because unlike tea and coffee it's used as a sweetener for many things including that tea and coffee.

BBI will solve it
:)
Njung'e
#302 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 10:47:14 AM
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@Sober,
You are right to appoint.....but there are two operations which are critical to cane quality that the miller does not have control of.Weeding and fertilizer application.

@2012,
Cane is not goldmine.....It's platinum adit.It's just a pity that.....
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Iborian
#303 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 11:50:26 AM
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Posts: 194
Sugar in Kenya seems to be going nowhere real fast. MSC is one counter that promises so much and delivers a tenth of the promise. Co-gen, Ethanol, TARDA, Carbon Credits etc were all promised like 5 years ago.

So far only Co-gen has seen the light of day and it is bringing about 5% of revenue. Ethanol will similarly add only 1.3 to revenue (less than 10%). PBT has been virtually stagnant for ages.

Do you really expect this counter to make you rich? Not me!
mwanahisa
#304 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 1:17:24 PM
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Posts: 1,438
Njung'e wrote:
@Sober,
You are right to appoint.....but there are two operations which are critical to cane quality that the miller does not have control of.Weeding and fertilizer application.

@2012,
Cane is not goldmine.....It's platinum adit.It's just a pity that.....


Guka, Care to explain that last remark equating cane to platinum.....
the deal
#305 Posted : Monday, October 25, 2010 4:12:19 PM
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Down to 10.95...no wonder @QW has gone missing...LOL...
Njung'e
#306 Posted : Monday, October 25, 2010 4:15:04 PM
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10.90.....on a Monday!!
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
PKoli
#307 Posted : Monday, October 25, 2010 4:23:14 PM
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Posts: 1,587
Njung'e wrote:
10.90.....on a Monday!!


I was smiling when I bought mine at KES 12, with a 20% expectation in two weeks. I might just get it, but on the negative side
PKoli
#308 Posted : Monday, October 25, 2010 4:33:38 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/10/2007
Posts: 1,587
Iborian wrote:
Sugar in Kenya seems to be going nowhere real fast. MSC is one counter that promises so much and delivers a tenth of the promise. Co-gen, Ethanol, TARDA, Carbon Credits etc were all promised like 5 years ago.

So far only Co-gen has seen the light of day and it is bringing about 5% of revenue. Ethanol will similarly add only 1.3 to revenue (less than 10%). PBT has been virtually stagnant for ages.

Do you really expect this counter to make you rich? Not me!


This is eating MSC more than the politics
stocksmaster
#309 Posted : Monday, October 25, 2010 5:01:49 PM
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Location: CENTRAL PROVINCE
Mumias will only stabilise after 2012 once the effects of the COMESA Rules on the sugar industry are fully internalised. The fact of the matter is external sugar is still cheaper than internally generated sugar. Meaning Mumias margins will get a beating once the flood gates are opened in 2012(I dont think COMESA will listen to any further extensions of Safeguards.)

@ Njung'e: What is the way forward? How can the local sugar companies compete? Or should the Western Sugar Belt think of another crop?

The argument that Mumias is diversifying to other products for revenue generation does not hold much. On a revenue generation point, when all the different revenue streams are factored in, sugar will still constitute 80% of Mumias Sugar Co. business (Sugar:co-generation:ethanol will be about 80:10:10). Thus Mumias revenues and profits will largely depend on its core business which is sugar.

Time will tell.

Happy hunting
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PKoli
#310 Posted : Monday, October 25, 2010 5:08:12 PM
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Joined: 2/10/2007
Posts: 1,587
stocksmaster wrote:
Mumias will only stabilise after 2012 once the effects of the COMESA Rules on the sugar industry are fully internalised. The fact of the matter is external sugar is still cheaper than internally generated sugar. Meaning Mumias margins will get a beating once the flood gates are opened in 2012(I dont think COMESA will listen to any further extensions of Safeguards.)

@ Njung'e: What is the way forward? How can the local sugar companies compete? Or should the Western Sugar Belt think of another crop?

The argument that Mumias is diversifying to other products for revenue generation does not hold much. On a revenue generation point, when all the different revenue streams are factored in, sugar will still constitute 80% of Mumias Sugar Co. business (Sugar:co-generation:ethanol will be about 80:10:10). Thus Mumias revenues and profits will largely depend on its core business which is sugar.

Time will tell.

Happy hunting


Stockmaster,

The only remedy for MSC is Tarda, nothing else. Once they start their production of Tarda sugar if it ever starts, they will get economy of scale (large nuclears - fewer outgrowers), faster growth rates, irigation controlled; That is the only way they will compete. They can then decide co-gen, ethanol bla bla and shareholders will keep smiling.

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