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IMPACT FACTOR OF WAZUA ON THE NSE
tkzee
#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:41:48 PM
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Wazua is a public forum and any rational investor would have this infor at hand whether it didn't exist.Wazua simply re-affirms what is already in the public by developing objective and subjective explanations.Therefore,to say that wazua has an effect on the market is like going against market efficiency,which would mean a prove that trading Patterns can be attributed to this forum.its quite difficult to differentiate infor specifically from wazua and infor from other sources.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:43:38 PM
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That phenomena is called 'The Njunge Effect'. With time it will make it to the dictionary. What a man, what a legacy, what a show!!!
youcan'tstopusnow
#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:44:25 PM
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guru, when SM sold his Mumias, that didn't stop it going way higher.
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guru267
#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 20, 2010 5:51:12 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru, when SM sold his Mumias, that didn't stop it going way higher.


@youcan't i didnt say that SM stopped it from rising but as soon as he sells a stock it stabilizes implying people are jumping off the boat with him Laughing out loudly

he sold KCB on the exact day it touched 23 for the first time and almost 3 weeks later the stock is still at 23 and if you check back mumias probably did exactly the same for a while after he sold it....
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VituVingiSana
#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:10:29 PM
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Say what you will... @stockmaster record speaks for itself...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:38:48 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Say what you will... @stockmaster record speaks for itself...

VVS, uko mbali sana. We are on about the impact of Wazua on the NSE, and not SM's record, which is [insert superlative of your choice here]
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sparkly
#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:56:32 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Pia kuna insiders like njunge the farmer on mumias.


@Sparkly,
Sad The fact that i know a thing or two about the sugar industry does not make me an insider nor a cane farmer.Tuheshimiane!

my apologies mean't to say expert
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mukiha
#28 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:21:53 AM
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Is there anyone doing an MBA and wondering what research project to undertake? This would be an interesting one...

It's very simple to verify the hypothesis that sentiments made in wazua affect price movements at the NSE.

All you need is track sentiments on a random sample of stocks; search the wazua archives for them; decide whether +ve or -ve; check price movement within 5 trading days after each post.

Very simple indeed, but with very important outcomes for both wazua and NSE
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#29 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:35:53 AM
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@Sparkly,
That's a gentleman...or are you an airport?Droolsmile

@Guru,
It's useless trying to convince...so i won't spend a nano-second on that....If i were you,i would take advantage of my claivoyance skills (Professa Maji Marefu is my only other competitor)Laughing out loudly

@GG,
Siku hizi unakula nyasore?smile



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the deal
#30 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:42:07 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
@Sparkly,
That's a gentleman...or are you an airport?Droolsmile

@Guru,
It's useless trying to convince...so i won't spend a nano-second on that....If i were you,i would take advantage of my claivoyance skills (Professa Maji Marefu is my only other competitor)Laughing out loudly

@GG,
Siku hizi unakula nyasore?smile




Is Njunge the old man i saw at cfc trying hard to sell some...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
niando
#31 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:44:11 AM
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Wazua has great impact on not only on NSE even on the political scene.

Look at the referendum, the opinion polls on Wazua were almost exactly the actual vote.

I was at the Mhasibu housing company meeting on 25 sept 2010 at stima club and everyone I talked to knew about Wazua.It was a very high profile meeting where even the housing permanent secretary , Kenya Bankers sacco top management, officials from Coop bank top official were present.They all knew about Wazua.

Wazua can even give direction on who will be the next president of this country.Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause





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maka
#32 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:17:06 PM
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Everybody with mumias have reached an agreement 14-15 in the next two weeks...
possunt quia posse videntur
tony stark
#33 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 6:37:43 PM
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Stock master I guess wazua does have an impact on the NSE!
Case study Eaagads share.
25 october- tatu city launch gone public. Hits media with a frenzy news, television prominent politicians. Eaagads share price= 48 shillings volume 200 share traded.
For perspective previous trades were october 22: 50 shillings volume 200.
26 october: Story hits wazua http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...aspx?g=posts&t=9301 Story starts a positive feedback cycle eventually leading to a frenzy. Discussion starts by doubt, pity of the coffee sector and eventually pertinent questions asked who sold land and how much?? Prover_b and waithaka ask.
Eaagads trades 26 oct: 48 shillings volume 200
27 oct: 46 shillings volume 700
28 october: finally reponse from kiriita claiming it is eaagads who sold the land.
Trades 28 october: 49.75 volume 2900
29 october: 53.50 volumes 9000
Speculators start boarding the band wagon.
1 november: 57.00 volume 7200
Clearly word is now getting out and everyone wants a piece of the pie. The initial thread dies a natural death as the speculators want to avoid spooking others before they have their piece.
2 november: 59.50 volume 33,000
3 november 65.00 volume 87900
November 4:
Business daily catch on to the trend and report it very late of course. http://www.businessdaily...52/1046378/-/jcr2rwz/-/
4 november: 71.50 volume 56,100
5 november. The truth is out. After market closure the owners see things are getting out of hand and they need to reign in the market. The truth douse water speculative fire.
5 november: 78.50 volume 4,300
8 november: The market opens, truth is out and every one wants out. We know what happens.
8 november: 71.00 volume 40,500

Lets see what happens....
X13united
#34 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 11:18:45 PM
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@tony- gud job man. If that is what happened,then we have no choice but to embrace wazua that is if we r not endorsing it. It beats all odds that the chain of reaction should simply be linked to wazua. I too stumbled on wazua n since then it has helped me big time in decision making- this is a case of a pilot being a chef, ofcourse the pilot has to read books about first class menus n recipes,with this said,wazua is currently my book. As the case now depends on the other jury,i rest my case sayin wazua has impact on the nse.
mukiha
#35 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:04:42 AM
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@tony Stark; Eaagads is not a good example. All the info that drive the counter up was in the public domain.... the press...
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Sober
#36 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:28:10 AM
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let us help prop up safaricom. then i will know that wazua for real pushes up prices.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:35:20 AM
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Sober wrote:
let us help prop up safaricom. then i will know that wazua for real pushes up prices.

cannot work with safaricom..too much liquidity

traded 6.2million yesterday..to influence price you need capacity to mop up supply..6.2 million at 4.70 comes to ksh 29.1million..

i doubt collectively all wazuans would pool all their monies to raise such an amount..or close to to mop up today's supply, just to prove a point..

suggest a less liquid counter. Probably Mid tier bank..
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alikujia
#38 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 12:47:21 PM
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mukiha wrote:
@tony Stark; Eaagads is not a good example. All the info that drive the counter up was in the public domain.... the press...

the egaard part could be interesting on its own, even if no basis for generalization.

the bit about whose(egaard) cofee tatu was drinking is the key point. did this come first in the public media or wazua?
tony stark
#39 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 5:54:44 PM
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alikujia wrote:
mukiha wrote:
@tony Stark; Eaagads is not a good example. All the info that drive the counter up was in the public domain.... the press...

the egaard part could be interesting on its own, even if no basis for generalization.

the bit about whose(egaard) cofee tatu was drinking is the key point. did this come first in the public media or wazua?

@muhika the info waz in the pubkic domain canot be dispute. My alternative hypothesis is wazua hyped up the information driving up share volumes and price. This rally waz definately driven by retail speculators. The volumes, demand and supply of the shares, and the timeline fit in well with wazua as the source of info or misinformation.
@ alikujia i tried to look at the usual public source nation, bd, etc and the first reference to eaagads waz on wazua.
jmbada
#40 Posted : Saturday, January 08, 2011 4:09:57 PM
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tony stark wrote:
stocksmaster wrote:
ACTIVITY 2/2011:

DATE: 06/01/2011

PURCHASE OF KENOL KOBIL 30,000 SHARES @ KSH 10.00.
A 15% capital gain in the next two months is expected.

Happy hunting.

The stocksmaster effect is about to kick in. hundred of site vistors have seen this post. Online orders are now being placed through suntra and cfc websites. Other employees have deserted their desks running to the stock broker to place orders.
KK is going to be on the top 5 stocks today and next week as orders are placed.
The price will slowly inch up to 11 -11.50 (10% -15% return) next week as demand outstrips supply. The smart ones will cash out as they wait for the stocksmaster effect to die down prices will be back to 9.00 - 10 by end of January and the stock will run it course.

@ Stocksmaster good pick.

@Tony Stark
Am new to this site. Are you actually saying that people will buy / sell shares based on one person's postings on an online forum? What a total bunch of idiots! He / she is not even investing real money! What a bunch of muppets. It's a shame there's no possibility to short shares and punish such speculators. Are there any brokers who can offer shorting of shares?
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