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Brokers set to lose millions in new bonds trading rules
maka
#1 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 3:27:58 PM
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Stockbrokers stand to lose up to one-fifth of their revenues in proposed amendments to capital markets regulations that will allow the trading of bonds outside the Nairobi Stock Exchange (NSE).
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emlyn ngwiri
#2 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 1:33:25 PM
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@ maka, kindly give us a link or an indepth analysis of the above?
kizee1
#3 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 1:38:30 PM
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the story is in todays biz daily pg 19
maka
#4 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 4:34:11 PM
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no matter how they try i dont see this working very few fixed income dealers would want to deal with one another directly...
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kizee1
#5 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 4:41:58 PM
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@maka? why is that?
maka
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:47:20 AM
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Allow me to copy paste what one md of an investment bank said in yesterdays business daily...
...said it was unlikely that banks would significantly affect trading volumes as most investors “will not have faith” in the OTC market.

“Stock brokers will not cut back on the dealing desks because it is unlikely that the plan will succeed, banks should concentrate on lending to the market not taking deposits only to invest in bonds.”

Under the proposed OTC market, buyers and sellers of financial securities agree on the payable price while at the ATS, market forces help to price the bond.
As i said earlier i believe bank dealers wouldn't want to deal between themselves they rather let brokers do all the hustling then get back to them with a preferred rate.By the way its only one or two banks who want this...
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kizee1
#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:50:35 AM
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that statement makes no sense, the OTC mkt wud trade on an e-platform that way u never know who the name on the other side is until u trade, a matching platform creates a transparent and vibrant mkt as oposd to wat is the case currently

...oh yes..banks take deposits and trade bonds? really? i thought they do so using shareholders funds, please note that u cud buy a bond to invest or trade, the funds u wud utilize wud differ..this plan will work very well, any broker who beleives deserves a comission will be forced to work for said comission, as we speak i kno of 1 broker who has offerd mkt an e-trading platform that will match trades...now thats wat i call adding value
maka
#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:32:43 PM
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adding value doesn't necessarily mean going hi-tech in most developed countries especially the US electronic bond trading systems of the main exchange and those that dont deal with brokers have flopped maybe we can build a successful one who knows...
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kizee1
#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:19:22 PM
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US treasuries, at least majority trade on an electronic platform known as ETC...in any case brokers hands are not tied they can charge comission only this time they will have to earn it
passiveinvestor
#10 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 8:56:21 AM
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maka wrote:
Allow me to copy paste what one md of an investment bank said in yesterdays business daily...
... As i said earlier i believe bank dealers wouldn't want to deal between themselves they rather let brokers do all the hustling then get back to them with a preferred rate.By the way its only one or two banks who want this...

Do you know which banks want this to come into effect?
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