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Royal Ngao Holdings Limited Private Placement
kingfisher
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:31:38 AM
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REAL Insurance is offering for subscription through a private placement 7,048,581 New Ordinary shares and offering for sale 2,824,860 Fully Paid and Issued Ordinary Shares of KSh.20.00 each at an offer price of KShs.66.00 each.

The minimum application is KShs.1,000,000.00 and maximum KShs.100,000,000.00.

For further details, please call us on 2888 444 / 0711 041 444 or email us on service@nic-capital.com / orders@nic-capital.com


Big Question: Who has any insight on this REAL group? I have a copy of the prospectus as well. If interested in it post your email address here!
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PKoli
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:34:28 AM
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Any info on statistical performance of the last few years! How many shares will be on offer? what kind of pe are we talking of at the offer price of KES 66.
Gordon Gekko
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:39:15 AM
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@kingfisher, sasa mtu mdogo kama mimi nitatoa one metre wapi? Haya, tuma hiyo prospectus gDOTgekkoAtymailDOTcom
PKoli
#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:42:15 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@kingfisher, sasa mtu mdogo kama mimi nitatoa one metre wapi? Haya, tuma hiyo prospectus gDOTgekkoAtymailDOTcom


Please do the analysis and let have your thoughts on the company. I wish someone could do a comparative analysis with CIC
VituVingiSana
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:46:16 AM
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I recall they went public in Malawi a few years ago...
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TUPAC
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:47:01 AM
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@kingfisher
send me a copy at txxxxshakur@gmail.com
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mukiha
#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:55:08 AM
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They are my customers and I was once their customer....hmmm
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Sasha
#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:59:53 AM
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I wonder what would have advised their price of Kshs 66/-. Seems quite expensive if you compare with CIC!

Send prospectus to Sasha.Muki@gmail.com
Gordon Gekko
#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:07:03 AM
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mukiha wrote:
They are my customers and I was once their customer....hmmm


This is a loaded statement.....Sad
msimon
#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:14:03 AM
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kingfisher wrote:
REAL Insurance is offering for subscription through a private placement 7,048,581 New Ordinary shares and offering for sale 2,824,860 Fully Paid and Issued Ordinary Shares of KSh.20.00 each at an offer price of KShs.66.00 each.

The minimum application is KShs.1,000,000.00 and maximum KShs.100,000,000.00.

For further details, please call us on 2888 444 / 0711 041 444 or email us on service@nic-capital.com / orders@nic-capital.com


Big Question: Who has any insight on this REAL group? I have a copy of the prospectus as well. If interested in it post your email address here!

msimon@talk21.com
whynow
#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:24:14 AM
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There is a difference between Royal Ngao and Real. If it is Real, they insure PSVs. Cant touch.
gathinga
#12 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:30:35 AM
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msimon wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
REAL Insurance is offering for subscription through a private placement 7,048,581 New Ordinary shares and offering for sale 2,824,860 Fully Paid and Issued Ordinary Shares of KSh.20.00 each at an offer price of KShs.66.00 each.

The minimum application is KShs.1,000,000.00 and maximum KShs.100,000,000.00.

For further details, please call us on 2888 444 / 0711 041 444 or email us on service@nic-capital.com / orders@nic-capital.com


Big Question: Who has any insight on this REAL group? I have a copy of the prospectus as well. If interested in it post your email address here!

msimon@talk21.com


@king. pls send
alphasports_1@yahoo.com
extrablessed
#13 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:30:37 AM
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whynow wrote:
There is a difference between Royal Ngao and Real. If it is Real, they insure PSVs. Cant touch.


CORRECTION!!! THEY DO NOT AND HAVE NEVER INSURED PSVs
PKoli
#14 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:51:29 PM
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Sasha wrote:
I wonder what would have advised their price of Kshs 66/-. Seems quite expensive if you compare with CIC!

Send prospectus to Sasha.Muki@gmail.com



Sasha are you able to work some numbers. What will be the p/e if it trades at KES 66
BGL
#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:25:12 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
REAL Insurance is offering for subscription through a private placement 7,048,581 New Ordinary shares and offering for sale 2,824,860 Fully Paid and Issued Ordinary Shares of KSh.20.00 each at an offer price of KShs.66.00 each.

The minimum application is KShs.1,000,000.00 and maximum KShs.100,000,000.00.

For further details, please call us on 2888 444 / 0711 041 444 or email us on service@nic-capital.com / orders@nic-capital.com


Big Question: Who has any insight on this REAL group? I have a copy of the prospectus as well. If interested in it post your email address here!


Please Email me the prospectus <bgl.bgl5@gmail.com>
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Sasha
#16 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:26:59 PM
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The p/e will be 11.56 which is same as CIC. But in terms of asset base and profitability, CIC is significantly higher than that of Real Group!
PKoli
#17 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:37:39 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
REAL Insurance is offering for subscription through a private placement 7,048,581 New Ordinary shares and offering for sale 2,824,860 Fully Paid and Issued Ordinary Shares of KSh.20.00 each at an offer price of KShs.66.00 each.

The minimum application is KShs.1,000,000.00 and maximum KShs.100,000,000.00.

For further details, please call us on 2888 444 / 0711 041 444 or email us on service@nic-capital.com / orders@nic-capital.com


Big Question: Who has any insight on this REAL group? I have a copy of the prospectus as well. If interested in it post your email address here!


Do you have a prospectus or the NIC presentation?
mnjoro
#18 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:05:23 PM
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Drop me an email muhuni2000@yahoo.com
Gordon Gekko
#19 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:08:00 PM
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My initial view - The purpose is "The net proceeds from the issue of new shares will be applied inter alia as equity for the Royal Ngao Towers development"
This cash will NOT be used to grow the business, but to construct an office block.
Unless I missed it, the document doesn't mention who the directors are - thought this is pertinent. Mureka Investment Company Limited, Zeniki Investments Limited and Kenya Farmers Association are mentioned as the shareholders, who are these guys?
Am I over reacting?
Wendz
#20 Posted : Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:09:55 PM
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