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mwanahisa		#321 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 12:59:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438		KQ are achieving what they set out to do - Intimidation.
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Gordon Gekko		#322 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 1:01:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760		Lakini, huyo on the left in todays advert, will somebody please give her my email address? gDOTgekkoATymailDOTcom
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VituVingiSana		#323 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 1:23:46 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,224 Location: Nairobi		Did you see today's ad??? Want a job with a REAL airline... [DEADLY] Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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2012		#324 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 1:36:26 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		mwanahisa wrote: KQ are achieving what they set out to do - Intimidation. This is one battle that KQ cannot win. Doesn't make sense running full page ads for positions of glorified mbo..... BBI will solve it :)
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VituVingiSana		#325 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 1:52:00 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,224 Location: Nairobi		2012 wrote: mwanahisa wrote: KQ are achieving what they set out to do - Intimidation. This is one battle that KQ cannot win. Doesn't make sense running full page ads for positions of glorified mbo..... KQ may give in a little but I SUPPORT the move... Letting those ingrates screw around??? I say KQ should FIRE each and every employee who goes on strike... And if KQ re-hires them then they should at the BOTTOM of the ladder... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Iborian		#326 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 2:39:59 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 4/17/2009 Posts: 194		Bids now at 44.50. Latest trades at 44.75. 40 beckons.
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VituVingiSana		#327 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 2:46:25 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,224 Location: Nairobi		Iborian wrote: Bids now at 44.50. Latest trades at 44.75. 40 beckons. I am conflicted... LOL... Anyway, I will buy more at 40/-... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#328 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 7:09:00 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,224 Location: Nairobi		So... if the Chinese owned KQ... strikes would not be much of a problem... http://www.zambianwatchdog.com/?p=9425 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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PKoli		#329 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 7:13:15 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587		[quote=VituVingiSana]So... if the Chinese owned KQ... strikes would not be much of a problem... http://www.zambianwatchdog.com/?p=9425[/quote] There would be no strikes. We would be having ever smiling crew, whether underpaid or overpaid
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Aguytrying		#330 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 7:22:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		[quote=VituVingiSana]So... if the Chinese owned KQ... strikes would not be much of a problem... http://www.zambianwatchdog.com/?p=9425[/quote] LOL!!!. This is what kq, should do to permanetly end strikes. Vvs, ur undoubtedly the strongest kq guy around here. I have some shares but My faith in kq has withered. What makes you believe in this company so much? The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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VituVingiSana		#331 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 2:00:17 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,224 Location: Nairobi		Aguytrying wrote: [quote=VituVingiSana]So... if the Chinese owned KQ... strikes would not be much of a problem... http://www.zambianwatchdog.com/?p=9425[/quote] LOL!!!. This is what kq, should do to permanetly end strikes. Vvs, ur undoubtedly the strongest kq guy around here. I have some shares but My faith in kq has withered. What makes you believe in this company so much? I fly KQ a lot & they are very busy on the routes I fly... The PLF on some flights are 90%. Of course, I do not fly on every route... So my 'evidence' is limited... I find 45/- to be cheap coz its assets are 45/- (or higher) BUT if it hits my target I am outta there! Same for KK... I want 30%/year = 20/- by Oct 2013 but if it touches 20/- in 1-2 year [unless something has changed for the better] I will sell off! KK has great potential in Ethiopia which has 100mn people... Unga is the same story... Potential returns are out-sized for those who wait! KQ can go to 100 in 3yrs if they continue the expansion [the delayed 787s screwed up my projections. I expected a delay but not a 3-yr delay]... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Aguytrying		#332 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 9:14:33 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		@vvs. Yenyewe you are a long term investor. And i can imagine the potential rewards. I look for a 15-20 Percent return in a quarter or 2 quarters. When it doesn't work i stay like, kq. This thing has taught me patience. Happy hunting. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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PKoli		#333 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 3:24:15 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587		VituVingiSana wrote: Aguytrying wrote: [quote=VituVingiSana]So... if the Chinese owned KQ... strikes would not be much of a problem... http://www.zambianwatchdog.com/?p=9425[/quote] LOL!!!. This is what kq, should do to permanetly end strikes. Vvs, ur undoubtedly the strongest kq guy around here. I have some shares but My faith in kq has withered. What makes you believe in this company so much? I fly KQ a lot & they are very busy on the routes I fly... The PLF on some flights are 90%. Of course, I do not fly on every route... So my 'evidence' is limited... I find 45/- to be cheap coz its assets are 45/- (or higher) BUT if it hits my target I am outta there! Same for KK... I want 30%/year = 20/- by Oct 2013 but if it touches 20/- in 1-2 year [unless something has changed for the better] I will sell off! KK has great potential in Ethiopia which has 100mn people... Unga is the same story... Potential returns are out-sized for those who wait! KQ can go to 100 in 3yrs if they continue the expansion [the delayed 787s screwed up my projections. I expected a delay but not a 3-yr delay]... @VVS Are you sure KK will get high margins in Ethiopia? Me thinks otherwise due to too much government controls. They are how we used to be in early 90s.
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the deal		#334 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:19:59 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery		How about the weak Kenyan shilling...will it not boost KQ's bottom line since they earn most of their tjing tjing in US$'S...
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VituVingiSana		#335 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 6:59:50 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,224 Location: Nairobi		PKoli wrote: @VVS Are you sure KK will get high margins in Ethiopia? Me thinks otherwise due to too much government controls. They are how we used to be in early 90s. Ahhh... I can wait... Not at the moment. The margins are very, very low but it is inevitable the market will be liberalized OR the government will provide subsidies... In the meantime (according to the Annual Report + AGM) Ethiopian locations are being re-designed to sell higher margin items like lubricants, etc Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#336 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:08:55 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,224 Location: Nairobi		the deal wrote: How about the weak Kenyan shilling...will it not boost KQ's bottom line since they earn most of their tjing tjing in US$'S... Yes. Already has. Offset by loans but overall beneficial to KQ. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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mlennyma		#337 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 9:49:30 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,191 Location: nairobi		Will the beating continue here?...court to rule and nov.numbers which has more weight?lets see "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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the deal		#338 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 10:21:38 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery		I'm still waiting for a 'BOLT' like rally from KQ from this Oversold level...
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guru267		#339 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 10:36:51 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		the deal wrote: I'm still waiting for a 'BOLT' like rally from KQ from this Oversold level... you'll have to wait for some time... probably until the results... and i hope for your sake they are even as a half as good as the expectations... Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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VituVingiSana		#340 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 10:48:12 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,224 Location: Nairobi		If the strike is not settled bt 4 Nov then it is in KQ's best interest to report lousy results... IMHO, I hope KQ sacks those who go on strike... Or those who want to stirke should quit & find new jobs... 100,000-120,000/month is nothing to sneeze at... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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