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mwanahisa
#301 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:13:30 AM
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Buyers are still cautious as they wait for the strikers case to be heard and determined from Oct 21st. This might yet give some of us who had not reached our targeted volumes time to get in. I am still hovering with my BUY orders at 45.

If the strike does not take place and the first half results come in as per my projection, 50 will become a floor not a ceiling as it has been for a while.
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#302 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:22:12 AM
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Haiya! KQ are still running these recruitment ads? It's never a good idea to provoke trade unions. Anyway let me sit back and watch how this suspense thriller drama will end.

BBI will solve it :)
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mwanahisa
#303 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:34:06 AM
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I think that KQ Mgt has decided to take the bull by the horns - provoke the disgruntled elements into going on strike, while going through the motions of negotiation. That way they stay on the right side of the law.

Once they strike, anyone deemed expendable will be let go and recruits will be ready to step in.

Keep watching. I have a feeling that this will be the one strike that will finally sort out the labour problems at KQ. I am ready to get a bloody nose on it if it comes to that.
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Pierce
#304 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:38:17 AM
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From 'the look of things' the strike shall not take place. Actually all that will happen is that kesi itatupiliwa mbali

My advise: Buy now if you have the cash.

I have a 'gut' feeling 4th of Nov will be a great day!!
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#305 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:56:19 AM
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Pierce wrote:
From 'the look of things' the strike shall not take place. Actually all that will happen is that kesi itatupiliwa mbali


This strike will happen and it will happen at the worst time for KQ. For the yet to be recruited flight attendants, the wise ones should not take a job with KQ if not under the union because there will be no one to fight for them and I think they know that. Atwoli will get other unions to support them and guess what, KQ will budge.

BBI will solve it :)
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mwanahisa
#306 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:07:32 PM
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I do hope the strike takes place. It will at least show us just what kind of Managers Naikuni and his group are. If they budge without getting most of what they want, it will show us that KQ is not a company worth investing in. It will never make money as long as they continue being held hostage by workers outrageous demands.

The price will come down hard so anyone buying during the strike will be sure to make money. But once an agreement is hammered that favours workers at the expense of shareholders, simply get out of that company. It will never make you the kind of returns that it is capable of.

For the moment "Buyer Beware".
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Pierce
#307 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:13:00 PM
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'Tea or coffee'....
130K Nett....
Disgruntled???
Don't kid me.
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#308 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:22:49 PM
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I'm with you on that @mwanahisa.

One thing we're all forgetting is the greatest shortcoming for KQ is service delivery and that includes time management. Let's not kid ourselves, service provision is the business KQ are in, not transport because transport I can get anywhere. So imagine a situation where:

a) you have poor service providers

b) these (a) are disgruntled

BBI will solve it :)
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KIRTI
#309 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:02:47 PM
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High of 48.50
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Aguytrying
#310 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:52:23 PM
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KIRTI wrote:
High of 48.50

somebody wake me up when we are at 52. Im aneasthetized with these fluctuations in the 40's.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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PKoli
#311 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:18:35 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
KIRTI wrote:
High of 48.50

somebody wake me up when we are at 52. Im aneasthetized with these fluctuations in the 40's.


Looks the 50 level is a huge resistance for KQ. We might wait for Half Year results
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Aguytrying
#312 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:27:44 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
KIRTI wrote:
High of 48.50

somebody wake me up when we are at 52. Im anaesthetized with these fluctuations in the 40's.


Looks the 50 level is a huge resistance for KQ. We might wait for Half Year results

oh yes it has, since june, its been the roof. Come on kQ show us how high you can fly.
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the deal
#313 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:33:32 PM
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I'm a proud KQ shareholder n frequent flyer...in fact the last time i flew KQ was today...its business as usual...
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Pierce
#314 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 10:05:23 AM
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Will sample the service on Monday - longhaul
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The Merchant
#315 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 10:18:58 AM
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the deal wrote:
I'm a proud KQ shareholder n frequent flyer...in fact the last time i flew KQ was today...its business as usual...

ENCOURAGING COMMENT THAT.smile
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mwanahisa
#316 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 10:57:26 AM
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And the ads for new Cabin Crew recruits are still running at full blast. KQ means business this time it appears. Can the price please fall so that we can stock up a nice quantity at bargain prices - i.e. below 45. It looks like it just might today.
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VituVingiSana
#317 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 11:11:34 AM
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As is KQ needs additional crew for the expansion... new planes, new destinations & such...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Iborian
#318 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 12:37:33 PM
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So far (at 11.37) the 2nd highest plunger of the day - down to 45.50. Next stop 44. You will wait a while before you see 50. More likely you will see 40 first.
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#319 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 12:47:26 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
As is KQ needs additional crew for the expansion... new planes, new destinations & such...


Let's be honest, that doesn't warrant running 6 full page press ads in both dailies at about 400k each. They could have put quarter page ads in the jobs section of today's papers and you can be sure everyone interested would see it.

BBI will solve it :)
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VituVingiSana
#320 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 12:55:20 PM
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2012 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
As is KQ needs additional crew for the expansion... new planes, new destinations & such...


Let's be honest, that doesn't warrant running 6 full page press ads in both dailies at about 400k each. They could have put quarter page ads in the jobs section of today's papers and you can be sure everyone interested would see it.

Ok, agreed the ads are overkill... lakini, they have gotten the attention of Kenyans...

Now if they would just post the pay ranges for the staff... Not that it is a secret coz the staff will talk if you ask...

If KQ posts what they pay the Crew... LOL... there will be lines trying to get into training classes!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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