retaliation is something else but justifying mass killing just bcoz ur community was involved doest make it right.especially when it involves a tribal militia.

Its like saying the killings of grannies by sungu sungu in kisii are justified because they are getting rid of witches.

I have watched the clip and I'm beginning to think people are selectively analyzing what Jeff said. I have picked a couple of things that absolutely no one has mentioned in their post. Jeff said:

1) I don't condone what Mungiki did.

2) ...two wrongs don't make a right.

3) ...the finger should be pointed across the board

etc.

I think Jeff was very brave to ask questions most of us [including wazuans] are afraid to ask in public. It's good to point out when someone goes out of line but we should state all the facts. For example, one should never kill an innocent Kenyan to avenge or prevent the death of another innocent Kenyan. But I guess that is what Jeff was alluding to by point no 2 above.

Having said that, I still stand by all my earlier posts including the fact that Jeff is saying what he is saying at the behest of UK.

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Musifikiri eti mambo ya ukabila itamaliwa na icc. wanasiasa wataerevuka next time, kuchochea machafuko bila kujiusisha moja kwa moja na matokeo ni yale yale..................

The Naivasha chaos is the toughest to analyse for someone from Central.On one hand the ODM troublemakers only woke up to the realisation that Kenya was burning after this chaos and hastened to the negotiating table.On the other hand, those who died were most likely innocent and had no part to play in the crimes of murder,assault, rape, and arson commited against Kikuyus elsewhere.Infact, they could have been bosom friends to the Kikuyu!...This was the Kikuyu dilemna in the chaos.There were many secretly smiling when Mungiki started circumcising people forcefully by crude methods in Nairobi.When Naivasha started,there were scattered cheers in Central.