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Aguytrying
#21 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:24:28 PM
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guru267 wrote:
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@Gatheuzi, just curious how you get to a price of 150 based on fundamentals. Please do tell.


@mwanahisa this stock is worth more than that price on a forward basis...

If it continues with 100% profit growth until year end its P/E will shrink to below 10 and don't forget their many new branches that are bound to boost profits....

Q3 results will justify all the banks prices.... since KCB is moving at the same pace i see know need to chase diamond.... But if you're in neither choose one and buy quick...

And basing on the NMG and Jubilee Interim dividends i also expect bonus shares from them....



Im also eyeing this one keenly, Id say ppl should be in both, though for kcb, its a bit late.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 7:17:41 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
guru267 wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
@Gatheuzi, just curious how you get to a price of 150 based on fundamentals. Please do tell.


@mwanahisa this stock is worth more than that price on a forward basis...

If it continues with 100% profit growth until year end its P/E will shrink to below 10 and don't forget their many new branches that are bound to boost profits....

Q3 results will justify all the banks prices.... since KCB is moving at the same pace i see know need to chase diamond.... But if you're in neither choose one and buy quick...

And basing on the NMG and Jubilee Interim dividends i also expect bonus shares from them....



Im also eyeing this one keenly, Id say ppl should be in both, though for kcb, its a bit late.


@ Mwanahisa the historical PE of this stock is 7.67 and a current PE of 15. Based on the half year results like @ guru indicated the growth in profits was 100%.

For the purpose of the risk control let us assume the profits grow by only 50% then the EPS at end of 2010 will be 11.51 and at current price of 117, the PE is at 10.

A bank with that level of growth should be fairly valued at around a PE of 15 at minimum so the price is 15X10 = Ksh150.

If it decides to join Equity or HF at PEs of 25 then you can see 250.

Disclaimer: I own DTB so my opinion may be subjective.
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#23 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:56:06 PM
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Aguytrying
#24 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:14:21 PM
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Just visited this companies website and read the reports of their finaces since 2008 to now. Im more than impressed. More impressive than even NIC(which is an excelleny company too). DTB strategy is just awesome, i noticed in 2008 they had set a goal to have 50 braches by 2010, they have 53. their profits have been growing. 2008-1.6B, 2009-1.93B. 1H 2009 (583m). 1H 2010 ( around 1.2B) meaning they had a very strong 2H in 2009. But a similar profit in 2H 2010, should still see it above 1.93B of full yr 2009. 100 branches target by 2012, and who can bet agianst them. First to Burundi last yr of the kenyan banks. Its not advisable to marry a share, but i want to wife this one and NIC as co-wife. lol

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#25 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 3:03:49 PM
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and the party continues
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#26 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 4:39:35 PM
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DTB is gaining, albeit gradually. But I feel the rally is yet to really hit top gear
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#27 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:58:58 AM
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DTB Group receives Sh2 billion financing www.businessdailyafrica....74/-/n9oa18/-/index.html
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Aguytrying
#28 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:15:23 AM
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@y. This is the kind of news that can cause a rally. Been unable to get an entry point, this makes me feel like jumping in. On other news. Is there anything good about nbk, ppl dont talk about it here n i personally fear it since i saw it drop like 20 bob, with my own 2.
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#29 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:29:14 AM
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This stock moves like a snail in its best days.
I bet the excitment wnt last long.
Me i say its co-op all the way !! Yani Co-op ni mama na baba yao.
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sheep
#30 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:05:16 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
This stock moves like a snail in its best days.
I bet the excitment wnt last long.
Me i say its co-op all the way !! Yani Co-op ni mama na baba yao.


I bought all the way from 47-72 in 2008-2010...now approaching 120...how is that snail pace...together with JUB they represent 60% of my portfolio.
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
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#31 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:19:33 AM
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I dnt even look at this stock. Its just there to decorate the nse list of counters.
Poor volume isnt part of my investing criteria .
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
Gatheuzi
#32 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:22:18 AM
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DTB high end investors includes the likes of IFC and the Agha Khan Fund.

These are the boys you want to invest along with.
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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#33 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:30:17 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
I dnt even look at this stock. Its just there to decorate the nse list of counters.
Poor volume isnt part of my investing criteria .

Yawn... Pray Pray Pray unlike the highly liquid, qw recommended Neveready... Down only 18%...
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2012
#34 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:33:16 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
I dnt even look at this stock. Its just there to decorate the nse list of counters.
Poor volume isnt part of my investing criteria .


Heyyyy qw! Welcome back. What have you been up to?

BBI will solve it
:)
youcan'tstopusnow
#35 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:40:26 AM
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And I thought qw had 'changed'
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qw25041985
#36 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:44:15 AM
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My co-op is up over 90% .why shld i buy this snail of a stock. @ 2012 , i am just takin a break frm the market . U need also to do the same .trust me u'll c the market in a different refreshd view.
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
youcan'tstopusnow
#37 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:09:04 PM
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High of 125
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shocks
#38 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:07:02 PM
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if it can maintain this momentum for about 3 years like equity did, there is serious money to be made there, I think waiting for 3rd quarter wil be risky since there is no knowing at what price it will be selling at then!
if we assume 2nd half will have an equal proportion to the years profit as last year that gives us a E.P.S 0f 17.
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#39 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:23:25 PM
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The bank will easily report 100% growth in Q3 2010 results. By end year 2010, the bank may well report over 70% growth in profits even with the ambitious branch network expansion.

This share should at least report an EPS of Ksh 12.5. At a P/E of 15, this translates to a price of Ksh 190 in April 2011.

Happy hunting

Aguytrying
#40 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:30:18 PM
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I personally wouldn't call this share illiquid. The volume may look small but the turnover is always healthy. Its not very liquid, like saf, eb, co-op,msc,kcb. But its not illiquid either.
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